Are there an infinite number of energy levels in an atom?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of energy levels in an atom, specifically whether there are an infinite number of energy levels or a finite number before reaching ionization. It touches on theoretical aspects of atomic structure and energy quantization.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there is an infinite number of energy levels in an atom, suggesting that energy levels get closer together as one moves away from the nucleus.
  • Another participant asserts that the discrete spectrum contains an infinite number of energy levels, referencing Bohr's model as a basis for this claim.
  • The first participant seeks clarification on whether the energy levels form an infinite geometric progression or if there is a point at which no more levels exist.
  • A participant provides the equation for energy levels, suggesting it is key to understanding the behavior of these levels.
  • One participant requests further elaboration on the topic, indicating a desire for more detailed information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is a divergence of views regarding the existence of an infinite number of energy levels, with some participants asserting that there are infinite levels while others question the nature of these levels as they approach ionization.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the question of whether energy levels are infinite or finite, and it relies on interpretations of atomic models and equations that may have varying implications.

Cheman
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Number of energy levels...

I have been told that as were go further away from the nucleus, the energy levels get closer and closer together - do we get to a stage where we get no more? I assume we must because any energy above this causes the substance to ionise (ie the ionisation energy); but are there an infinite number of energy levels before this or some discrete number of them?

I have been told that the way that the levels get closer and closer together is governed by some equation - what I guess I'm asking boils down to is is this an infinite geometric progression with the levels getting closer and closer for infinity (ie - an infinite number of levels), or do we get to a point where an equation would just give the same answer - there are no more levels which exist?

Thanks in advance. :smile:
 
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Cheman said:
I have been told that as were go further away from the nucleus, the energy levels get closer and closer together

Yes,that's a physical consequence of Bohr's model/postulates.

Cheman said:
- do we get to a stage where we get no more?
I



As soon as u go past zero,yes,the electron is free,adieu to quantization.



Cheman said:
but are there an infinite number of energy levels before this

Sure,the discrete spectrum contains an infinite # of energy levels.

Cheman said:
I have been told that the way that the levels get closer and closer together is governed by some equation

Yes.This equation
[tex]E_{n}=\frac{E_{1}}{n^{2}}[/tex]

Cheman said:
- what I guess I'm asking boils down to is is this an infinite geometric progression with the levels getting closer and closer for infinity (ie - an infinite number of levels), or do we get to a point where an equation would just give the same answer - there are no more levels which exist?

I've given u the equation,see what it boils down to... :wink:

Daniel.
 
Thanks. Please could someone elaborate further? :smile:
 
In what domain?What do you think it has been answererd too briefly...?

Daniel.
 

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