Potential difference between plates in a B-Field?

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The discussion revolves around determining the potential difference between two plates in the presence of a magnetic field (B-field). The original poster seeks assistance in understanding how to find this potential difference, particularly in the context of a charged particle moving between the plates.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the nature of potential in magnetic fields, questioning whether magnetic potential can be applied. They discuss the implications of the charge's motion and its relation to the magnetic field, including the use of the right-hand rule to determine charge sign and electric field direction. There are attempts to relate the electric and magnetic forces to find the potential difference.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches to relate electric and magnetic forces. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between electric field strength and potential difference, though the discussion remains open-ended without a definitive conclusion.

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The problem includes specific parameters such as the distance between the plates, the magnetic field strength, the radius of the particle's circular motion, and its velocity. The original poster expresses uncertainty about calculating the potential difference and the reasoning behind the relationships discussed.

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How is potential difference found between two plates in a B-field? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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What potential are u talking about?Magnetic potential...?

Daniel.
 
Unfortunately, the magnetic field cannot be treated by the method of potential energy. This is because the magnetic field is not a conservative field (it depends on the speed you are going and the path you take, unlike a gravitational or electrostatic field).
 
Well I'm given two plates and a B-field. a charge is placed inbetween the two plates and moves paralllel to the two plates until the end, where it then makes a downward circle turn. All the while, the charge is in a B-Field.

the distance between the two plates is given
the B-field is given
the radius of the downward circle is given
and the velocity of the charge is given.
 
The question runs me through a series of questions actually, and I think they are all linked somehow.

The first one asks what the sign of the charge of the particle is. And the answer I got was Negative, since the B-Field is going INTO the paper, and the velocity is to the right. Therefore, the charge SHOULD be moving upwards [right hand rule number one], but instead it moves downwards, therefore the charge is negative.

The second question is indicate the direction of the electric field between the plates. My repsonse was the electric field moves from the bottom plate to the top plate, because the charge is being pushed downward by the B-Field [seen when the charge exits the two plates]. Since it should be moving downwards, and is not [the charge moves in a straight parallel line between the two plates]. Therefore, the plates electric field must be opposing the downward force with an upward force. Aka a force from the bottom plate to the top plate.

And the third question asks what's the magnitude of the potential difference (V) between the plates, which is where I got stuck.

On second thought. emf = BLv, where B = b-field, L = distance between the plates, and v = the velocity of the charge. Would this solve for the potential difference between the plates? If so, how come? any simple reason?
 
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Equate the electric force (in ansolute value) with the magnetic one and from there extract the value of E.Then V=Ed.

Daniel.
 
F = Eq = qvB. Therefore E = vB
So.. V=Ed = vBd?
 
Awsome, thanks so much.
 

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