What is the molar mass of the unknown gas?

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The discussion revolves around determining the molar mass of an unknown gas using experimental data involving pressure, temperature, and mass measurements. Participants explore the application of the ideal gas law and related equations in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving the mass of a flask before and after filling it with an unknown gas, along with pressure and temperature conditions.
  • Another participant suggests using the equation µ = (ρRT)/p to find the molar mass, indicating a method to derive the necessary values.
  • A question is raised about the meaning of the variables in the equation, prompting clarification on the definitions of µ, ρ, R, T, and p.
  • Further, a participant emphasizes the need to use the ideal gas equation PV = nRT and points out that the volume is not given explicitly, suggesting that it can be derived from the mass of water in the flask.
  • It is mentioned that once the number of moles is calculated, finding the molar mass should be straightforward.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the ideal gas law and the approach to derive the molar mass, but there are varying levels of clarity regarding the steps involved and the definitions of variables.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the ideal gas law applies under the given conditions, and the calculation of volume relies on the density of water, which may not be explicitly stated in the problem.

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Please Help!

I am pretty confused about this problem. Can anyone offer some suggestions? Pretty please. :smile:

All of the gas inside of a flask is removed and the flask is found to weigh 123.17g. It is filled with a gas of unknown molar mass until the pressure inside the flask is 658 torr at 23 degrees celsius. The flask is then found to weigh 132.92g with the unknown gas. The unknown gas is removed and the flask is filled with water and found to weigh 1002.65g. Assuming the ideal gas equation holds, what is the molar mass of the unknown gas?

I know that the density of water at 23 degrees celsius is 0.999g/ml. Would I use the equation Density=Pressure X Mass / R X Temp.?

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U can easily find the mass of the gas,its density under those conditions and then use
[tex]\mu=\frac{\rho RT}{p}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
What Do The Different Variables Stand For In The Equation?
 
µ is the molar mass.\rho is the volumic mass density.R is the universal gas constant,T is the absolute temperature,p is the pressure...

Daniel.
 
Well, you'll need to use the ideal gas equation

[tex]PV=nRT[/tex]

which of these variables is not given explicitly? The volume. How would you find the volume? hint: using the density of water and the mass of water in the flask

You can now solve for n, moles. The rest should be simple, you should now easily be able to find the molar mass on your own.
 

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