Fusion Reactor: A Possible Solution to Generate Thermal Energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using artificial gravity to initiate nuclear fusion, specifically through the manipulation of hydrogen at extremely high temperatures. Participants explore theoretical and engineering challenges related to creating conditions suitable for fusion outside of stellar environments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that artificially accelerating gravity could help achieve the necessary conditions for fusion by generating sufficient inward pressure on hydrogen.
  • Another participant questions the practicality of using a rotating space station to simulate gravity for fusion, arguing that it would not effectively induce fusion.
  • A later reply emphasizes the engineering challenges, noting that the forces required to heat hydrogen to 10,000,000K would be immense and likely unachievable with current technology.
  • Some participants argue that spinning hydrogen alone would not work, as it would likely disperse rather than create the necessary conditions for fusion.
  • Concerns are raised about the structural integrity of both the hydrogen and the space station if subjected to high rotational speeds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the feasibility of using artificial gravity to induce fusion. While some explore the theoretical aspects, others challenge the practicality and safety of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the assumptions about gravity, pressure, and the physical behavior of hydrogen under extreme conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the viability of the proposed methods for achieving fusion.

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In astronomy class i was told that a grouping of hydrogen must reach 10,000,000K for fusion to occur. Without a sun being a certain size, gravity could never be great enough to generate such high temperatures-brown dwarf.

So, could you artificially accelerate gravity (as in future plans for space stations) to generate enough thermal energy to initiate fusion. A possible solution on how to make a fusion reactor?
 
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oldunion said:
So, could you artificially accelerate gravity (as in future plans for space stations)

Are you referring to the plan to rotate the space station so as to simulate gravity? I don't see how that would help someone induce fusion.
 
In theory, sure. But from an engineering standpoint, no. I'm not sure how much force (pressure) is needed to heat hydrogen to 10000000k, but whatever the force is, it'll be huge, and your contraption must rotate at extremely high, unachieveable speeds. It would probably fly apart long before it reached the proper velocity.
 
Not a contraption, the hydrogen itself. If you spin a space station fast, and if it were large enough you could theoretically produce artificial gravity. So perhaps if you spun a mass of hydrogen fast enough you could generate enough gravity to produce enough inward pressure that could heat the mass of hydrogen to 10millionK so that fusion could occur without the sun needing to be a certain mass.
 
Contraption meaning you have to put the hydrogen in somethingsince its a gas.
 
oldunion said:
Not a contraption, the hydrogen itself. If you spin a space station fast, and if it were large enough you could theoretically produce artificial gravity. So perhaps if you spun a mass of hydrogen fast enough you could generate enough gravity to produce enough inward pressure that could heat the mass of hydrogen to 10millionK so that fusion could occur without the sun needing to be a certain mass.
That's just absolute nonsense. I'm not even sure where to start... Do you want to spin the hydrogen by itself, without a container?!
 
So perhaps if you spun a mass of hydrogen fast enough you could generate enough gravity to produce enough inward pressure

No, exactly the opposite. If you spin it fast enough it will fly apart. If you try to contain it inside a space station, the space station will fly apart. And you're not 'generating gravity', you're just accelerating something by spinning it (like a centrifuge). As has been pointed out, this is not a pracitcal way to get nuclear fusion.
 

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