Can one read a meter stick down to a tenth of a millimeter?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of reading a meter stick to a precision of one-tenth of a millimeter, specifically whether measurements such as 32.43 cm can be reasonably obtained. The scope includes considerations of measurement accuracy, significant figures, and the psychological aspects of estimating measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that achieving a measurement to a tenth of a millimeter requires combining fair guesses with multiple measurements to establish a statistical basis and compute an average, including an estimate of error.
  • Others argue that significant figures allow for a measurement to be expressed with one decimal place beyond the smallest division on the meter stick, provided the error is also represented.
  • One participant notes that while precise readings can be taken, the overall accuracy of the meter stick may be poor, potentially leading to a systematic error of around 2 mm.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that if the meter stick is accurate and the markings are resolvable, measurements can be confidently made to the millimeter level, but the determination of error may be more subjective.
  • A participant requests a numerical example to illustrate the concept of estimating one decimal place beyond the exact measurement.
  • It is mentioned that while exact millimeter measurements can be counted, estimating beyond that requires careful consideration of what can be reasonably observed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the precision achievable with a meter stick and the validity of estimating measurements beyond the smallest marked division. No consensus is reached regarding the rigorous justification for error estimation or the psychological aspects of measurement.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential inaccuracies in the meter stick itself, the subjective nature of estimating measurements, and the dependence on the observer's ability to resolve markings.

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Can one read a meter stick down to a tenth of a millimeter? For example, could I reasonably measure an object as 32.43 cm using a meter stick?
 
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.1 mm on meter stick is gotten from a fair guess. You need to combine that fair guess with multiple measurements to obtain a statistical basis then compute an average. Your result should state a estimate at the magnitude of your error, perhaps the standard deviation of your data.
 
As far as significant figures go, if it is marked down to milimeters, the best measurement you can get is 0.0001m, you are allowed to guess one decimal place beyond what you can measure, provided you show a realm of error in the same magnitude.
 
I've used metre sticks from which pretty precise readings could be taken, but the accuracy was really poor (perhaps 2mm out over the whole length).
 
Haftred said:
Can one read a meter stick down to a tenth of a millimeter? For example, could I reasonably measure an object as 32.43 cm using a meter stick?

It's not clear to me that there's a rigorous justification for the standard error quote when using a meter stick, but it's also not clear that one is needed. If it's an accurate meter stick and you can resolve the markings with your eyes, then your measurement is certainly good to the millimeter level. Beyond that, determining the error is more of a psychological problem than anything else.
 
whozum said:
you are allowed to guess one decimal place beyond what you can measure, provided you show a realm of error in the same magnitude.

Can you give a numerical example of this? Thanks.
 
On a meter stick, typically marking are up to milimeters.
1 millimeter = 10 ^ -3 m = 0.001 m

Lets say your measuring a pencil
You can measure the number of millimeters exactly without any error, right? Just count up the ticks. This value is exact, let's say its 0.104m, or 10.4cm. After that, you are permitted to estimate up to one decimal place more, for example, if its really close to the 4mm mark, you can guess it to be about 10.41cm, or 10.42cm, something like that. if its clsoe to the middle, 10.45. The point is you can put a reasonable estimate on this value. It is not reasonable however to say that a pencil is 10.42434395098cm just by looking off a ruler, because you can't obtain such a high accuracy. The most you can say is what you can observe as exact, plus one more decimal place.
 

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