Limits of Complex exponentials

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The discussion centers on the limits of complex exponentials, specifically the behavior of the functions e^-iwt and e^iwt as t approaches infinity and zero. Participants explore conceptual visualizations of complex exponentials and the implications of their oscillatory nature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the limits of e^-iwt and e^iwt as t approaches infinity do not exist, citing the oscillatory behavior of the functions.
  • One participant references Euler's formula, linking complex exponentials to trigonometric functions, and concludes that due to this oscillation, no asymptotic limits exist for real arguments.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may have confused the limit of e^{iωt} as t approaches zero with that as t approaches infinity.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of essential singularities in complex analysis, explaining that the exponential function can take on different values depending on the path taken towards infinity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the existence of limits for the complex exponentials as t approaches infinity, with some asserting non-existence and others suggesting potential confusion regarding the limits at zero.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the oscillatory nature of the functions and the implications of complex analysis, including essential singularities, without resolving the underlying mathematical complexities or assumptions involved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying complex analysis, particularly in understanding the behavior of complex exponentials and their limits in various contexts.

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I was told that the limit of e^-iwt as t-> infinity is 1 or is at least modeled as 1. Can anyone tell me why this is?

Also, what is the limit of e^iwt as t-> infinity and likewise, the limits of e^iwt and e^-iwt as t-> 0

How do you conceptually visualise the complex exponential?

Hope someone can help.
 
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The limits you were told exist do not (as t tends to infinity), and you should be able to figure out why if you know a little about the complex numbers (consider what happens when t is an even multiple of pi, and an odd multiple of pi).

When t is zero the function is well defined and is 1.

Suppose t is real, then e^{iwt] (why the w?) is cos(wt) +i sin(wt).

What do you know about the complex plane?
 
No.They don't exist.Period.Roughly 250 yrs ago,Euler found a nice formula linking circular trigonometric functions & complex exponentials (of arbitrary complex argument)

[tex]e^{i\varphi}=\cos\varphi+i\sin\varphi[/tex]

Since it's a common fact that,due to their "oscillation",the circular trigonometrical functions of real arg. do not have asymptotic limits (on the real axis),we conclude the same thing for the complex exponential of real argument (i.e.[itex]\varphi\in \mathbb{R}[/itex]).

So to answer your first question,you've been either lied to,or someone made a bad joke.

To answer your second.Think of the complex/Gauss/Argand plane and since the complex exp.of real arg.is a multivalued function of modulus one,u can visualize the [itex]e^{i\varphi}[/itex] as an arrow with its top on the unit circle & its base/origin in the point [itex](0,0)[/itex].

Daniel.
 
matt grime said:
(why the w?)

I suspect that was intended to be [tex]\omega[/tex]- typically used to represent the frequency.

I wonder if the original poster wasn't told that the limit of [tex]e^{i\omega t}[/tex] was 1 as t goes to 0 rather than infinity.
 
Hi. Answer to original question is - yes, exponential function changes values at the point at infinity depending on the path one chooses complex variable to approach the point at infinity. This is due to fact that exponential function has Essential Singularity at infinity. You know that infinities of analytic functions are poles. All poles are of some finite order n. If singularity is pole of infinite order, then there is an essential singularity there. By Weierstrass theorem, analytic functions assume any possible complex value at any neighborhood of essential singularity. This means one gets different values as approaches essential infinity along different directions. I hope this helps someone. Peace c:
 

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