What is the Flux of a Vector Field Over a Box and How Does Divergence Affect It?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the flux of a vector field over a box defined by specific limits for x, y, and z. The vector field is given in terms of its components, and participants are exploring the implications of applying the divergence theorem in this context.

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  • Participants discuss setting up multiple flux integrals for the surface of the box and question the cancellation of terms leading to a flux of zero. There is also exploration of how the divergence theorem applies to the volume of the box and its implications for the results obtained.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the setup of integrals and the values used for different sides of the box. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to substitute specific values for x when evaluating integrals at different surfaces.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of integrating vector fields over defined surfaces and are addressing potential discrepancies in their calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the correct limits and values are applied in the integrals.

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find the flux of the vector
[tex]\vec{A} = \frac{6ka^2y}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+a^2}} \hat{e_x}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{3ka^2z}{\sqrt{y^2+z^2+4a^2}}\hat{e_y}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2ka^2x}{\sqrt{x^2+z^2+9a^2}}\hat{e_z}[/tex]

a) intergrating over the surface of the box, of
0 <= x <= 2a
0 <= y <= 3a
0 <= z <= a
b) divergence thrm over the volume of the box


a)...I setup 6 flux intergrals and sum them for the total flux is the first step..
each of these intergrals is setup like (going directly to the dot product result)...
[tex]\oint \vec{A} \bullet d\vec{a}[/tex]

[tex]\int_0^a \int_0^{3a} A_x dydz[/tex] however when i setup the opposite side of the box...
[tex]\int_0^a \int_0^{3a} -A_x dy dz[/tex] because of the [tex]d\vec{a} = dydz(-\vec{\hat{e_x}})[/tex]

which means they just cancel which i do for all of them...and get 0 flux which is not what it should be nothing loops back on itself, and the divergence gives me something totally diffrent so what's up?
 
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The function has a different value at opposite sides of the box.
 
soooo..? [tex]\int_0^a \int_0^{3a} A_x dydz[/tex]
[tex]6ka^3\int_0^{3a} \frac{y}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+a^2}} dy[/tex]
[tex]6ka^3(\sqrt{10a^2+x^2}-\sqrt{a^2+x^2})[/tex]


[tex]\int_0^a \int_0^{3a} -A_x dydz[/tex]
[tex]-\int_0^a \int_0^{3a} A_x dydz[/tex] how is this not opposite what I just did?

do i have to setup the first intergral like...
[tex]x=2a[/tex] at this side of the surface
[tex]6ka^3\int_0^{3a} \frac{y}{\sqrt{(2a)^2+y^2+a^2}} dy[/tex]
 
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You're at two different values of x. The final answer should only be in terms of a.
 
check my edit is that what u mean?
 
yes, when your integrating at x=2a, you need to plug in 2a for x.
 

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