Ac Spark Length: General Guidelines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the general guidelines for ac spark length, particularly in relation to voltage and various influencing factors. Participants explore the relationship between voltage and spark length, as well as specific applications such as Tesla coils.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about a general rule of thumb for ac spark length.
  • Another participant suggests that the question may relate to the breakdown voltage of air over a certain distance.
  • A participant notes that there is a relationship between voltage and spark length, which is also affected by air pressure.
  • One contributor shares personal experience with a Tesla coil producing 12-inch sparks and seeks an approximate conversion from spark length to voltage.
  • Another participant mentions that the rule of thumb for spark length can vary based on several factors, including coil windings, transformer specifications, and wire thickness, proposing a figure of 8.5 kV per inch for medium-sized units.
  • Several online resources are referenced for further calculations related to voltage and spark length.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the factors influencing spark length and voltage, indicating that there is no consensus on a single rule of thumb. Multiple competing models and approaches are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific assumptions regarding the conditions under which the proposed voltage-to-spark length relationships hold true, nor does it clarify the mathematical basis for the suggested figures.

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Is there a general rule of thumb for ac spark length?
 
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Are you asking something like "what's the breakdown voltage of a given space in air?"

- Warren
 
There is a relationship between the voltage and the length of the spark, it is also effected by the surrounding gas (air) pressure.

Here is a site that gives some mathematical equations, statistics and graphs showing the relationships.

http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/msr/spk/
 
I build a small tesla coil that produces about 12" sparks. I don't have a way to measure the voltage so I am looking for an approximate spark length to voltage conversion.
 
I think the rule of thumb varies with several factors: the number of windings in your coils, the transformer, wire thickness, primary spark gap settings, etc. But I read somewhere that for a medium sized unit the rule of thumb is something like 8.5 Kv per inch, this sounds possible for yours, 8.5 x 12 would put you at about 102,000 volts, a little low for a tesla coil, but possible I think.

There are several internet sites that deal with calculating this voltage based on the various factors directly associated with your Tesla Coil.

Here is one:

http://hometown.aol.com/futuret/page5.html
 

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