Nonhomogeneous: Undetermined coefficients

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation of the form (d²x/dt²) + (ω²)x = Fsin(ωt) using the method of undetermined coefficients. Participants explore the steps involved in finding both the homogeneous and particular solutions, addressing confusion regarding the variables and the application of the method.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the differential equation and expresses confusion about the variables involved.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the homogeneous equation to find the fundamental solution.
  • A proposed form for the particular solution is given as yₚ = A x sin(ωt) + B x cos(ωt), with a note on modifying this form if the fundamental solution includes sine and cosine terms.
  • A participant shares their attempt to solve the homogeneous equation but struggles with finding the roots due to the presence of ω².
  • Another participant provides a detailed substitution method to derive the characteristic equation, leading to complex roots r = ±ωi.
  • One participant later expresses gratitude for the assistance and indicates they have resolved their confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps to solve the differential equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the initial confusion regarding the variables or the method of undetermined coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' contributions include assumptions about the forms of solutions and the nature of the roots, which may depend on the definitions and context of the variables involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals seeking assistance with solving second-order differential equations, particularly using the method of undetermined coefficients.

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(d^2x/dt^2)+(w^2)x=Fsin(wt), x(0)=0,x'(0)=0

Hope that's readable. First part is second derivative of x with respect to t. w is a constant and F is a constant. I need to find a solution to this using method of undetermined coeffecients and I'm confused with all the different variables. Anyone get me started at least?
 
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Well, first off start by solving the homogenous equation to find the fundamental solution.

[tex]\ddot{x} + \omega^{2}x = 0[/tex]

After that try a Particular solution of the type

[tex]y_{p} = A x \sin(\omega t) + B x\cos(\omega t)[/tex]

Remember that if the fundamental solution has already sin and cos, you will need to try a xsin and xcos, like this case.
 
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I got my homogenous equation x''+(w^2)x=0 but I can't find my roots with that w^2 in there.
 
What seems to be the problem? Show me your work.
 
Here, i will start you off

[tex]\ddot{x} + \omega^{2}x = 0[/tex]

we assume a as a solution

[tex]x(t) = e^{rt}[/tex]

So we substitute in our ODE

[tex]r^{2}e^{rt} + \omega^{2}e^{rt} = 0[/tex]

so

[tex]e^{rt}(r^{2} + \omega^{2}) = 0[/tex]

because [itex]e^{rt}[/itex] cannot be equal to 0

[tex]r^{2} + \omega^{2} = 0[/tex]

which ends up as

[tex]r = \pm \omega i[/tex]
 
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I figured it out, thanks a lot for your help, I was just being dumb.
 

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