How can I solve this tricky exponent integral problem using proper methods?

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific integral problem involving the expression \(\int x^2 e^{\frac{1}{2}x^2+x} dx\). Participants explore various methods for tackling this integral, including integration by parts and manipulation of the integrand. The focus is on finding a proper method to derive the solution and understanding the reasoning behind it.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a solution using the Lagrange method but expresses a desire to solve the integral using a more formal approach.
  • Another participant suggests using integration by parts, noting that the derivative of the exponent is \(x+1\) and proposes rewriting \(x^2\) as \(x(x+1)-x\).
  • A subsequent reply reiterates the integration by parts approach but does not clarify how it aids in solving the integral.
  • A detailed breakdown of the integration by parts method is provided, showing the steps to simplify the integral and arrive at a solution involving \(xe^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x}\).
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the cleverness of the method and acknowledges the realization of the key moment in the integration process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of integration by parts as a viable method for solving the integral, but there is no consensus on the clarity of the initial suggestions or the effectiveness of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the steps involved in the integration process, indicating that further clarification may be needed. The discussion does not resolve all uncertainties related to the methods proposed.

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i solved ODE with Lagrange method and got stuck with integral

[tex]\int x^2 e^{\frac{1}{2}x^2+x} dx[/tex]

i couldn't solve it with any method but combined and got the answer that it is

[tex]\int x^2 e^{\frac{1}{2}x^2+x} dx=C+(x-1)e^{\frac{1}{2}x^2+x}[/tex]

the problem is that i want to do it with proper method, and show how it comes out. My mentor said that these types of integrals are "freaky" with little twist:smile:

Anyway, i don't mind some advice
 
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U can do it using part integration.The derivative of the exponent is [itex]x+1[/itex] which u can obtain writing [itex]x^{2}=x(x+1)-x[/itex]


Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
U can do it using part integration.The derivative of the exponent is [itex]x+1[/itex] which u can obtain writing [itex]x^{2}=x(x+1)-x[/itex]


Daniel.
i don't get how that helps me
 
It does

[tex]\int x^{2}e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx=\int \left(x^{2}+x-x\right) e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx=\int x(x+1)e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx-\int x e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx[/tex]
[tex]=xe^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x}-\int e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx-\int x e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx[/tex]
[tex]=x e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x}-\int (x+1)e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x} \ dx=x e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x}-e^{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}+x}+C[/tex]


Daniel.
 
wow, that is very clever, at first i looked ur answer and couldn`t get one line but then i realized that the key moment was to crack int x(x+1)*e^...dx with simple method by taking u=x and dv=(x+1)*e^...dx and now i realize the beauty. So thank u very much for helping me on this one.
 

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