Electrolysis of water and charges help

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to the electrolysis of water, specifically calculating the charge required to produce 11.2L of oxygen at standard temperature and pressure (STP) and determining the time taken for the process using a current of 0.05A. The scope includes electrochemistry concepts and calculations.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the question and presents their calculations, questioning their correctness.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "charge" may refer to voltage instead and advises converting the oxygen volume to moles and calculating moles of electrons per second.
  • A different participant provides standard half-reactions and discusses the total potential required for the electrolysis process, but later suggests that potentials may not be necessary for the calculations.
  • One participant outlines a method involving converting the volume of oxygen to moles and calculating the charge based on the number of electrons required for the reaction.
  • Another participant presents their own calculations, referencing a specific half-reaction and expressing uncertainty about the value of charge (Q) used in their time calculation.
  • One participant describes a different approach, calculating the total charge required based on the number of moles of oxygen and electrons, leading to a significantly longer time estimate for the electrolysis process.

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Participants express differing methods and calculations, with no consensus on the correct approach or final answers. Multiple competing views and interpretations of the problem remain evident throughout the discussion.

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Some participants reference different half-reactions and their corresponding potentials, while others focus on the stoichiometry of the reactions. There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of "charge" and how it relates to the calculations, as well as discrepancies in the time estimates based on varying assumptions.

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Hi i am confused about on how to solve this question.

The question asks: By the electrolysis of water, 11.2L oxygen at STP was prepared. a) What charge was required? b) if a current of 0.05A was used, how long did it take?

I have done the question but i think i did it wrong.

2H2O(l) ---> O2(g) + 4H +(aq) + 4e- (oxidation)
4H +(aq) + 4e- ---> 2H2O(g) (reduction)

a) 1mol/22.4L = 0.0446
0.0446* 96500= 4303.9 4.3* 10^3

b) 0.5A = 4.3* 10^3/t
4.3*10^3/0.5A
t = 8607.8s

Is this completely wrong? :confused:
 
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First your thread title is misleading since this is a question about electrochemistry. Second I'm not sure what is meant by "What charge was required?" Could you mean what potential (voltage) is required ? If so simply solve the redox reaction for the potential. Finally for b) simply convert the O2 to moles and convert the .05 A to moles of electrons/sec and due the math :)
 
I think your full reaction should be [tex]2H_2O (l) \longrightarrow O_2 (g) + 2H_2 (g)[/tex]

Your standard half reactions are [tex]O_2 (g) + 4 H^+ (aq) + 4 e^- \longrightarrow 2H_2O \ E^0 = +1.23 V[/tex] and
[tex]2H_2O (l) + 2 e^- \longrightarrow H_2 (g) + 2 OH^- (aq)\ E^0 = -0.83 V[/tex]

I got these reduction potentions from http://www.jesuitnola.org/upload/clark/Refs/red_pot.htm Of course, during electrolysis the first reaction occurs in reverse. So what do you think the total potential would be?

Edit: Actually you don't need to bother about the potentials.

a) You have 11.2 L of O2 at 1 atm and 273 K. How many moles of O2 is this? Hint: PV = nRT. Now how many electorns are required to reduce 1 molecule of O2 ? 1 mol of O2? How many coulombs are there in x moles of electrons ?

b) This one should be easy once you have (a) 1 ampere = 1 coulomb / second. You have coulombs and amps. Solve for seconds.
 
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The question asks: By the electrolysis of water, 11.2L oxygen at STP was prepared. a) What charge was required? b) if a current of 0.05A was used, how long did it take?

a)at STP 1mole/22.4L (I think), convert to moles

-using the half reaction equation, find out the mole of electrons required for every 1 mole of oxygen. Convert to moles of electrons using factor labeling.

-convert this mole value to avogadros number. From this convert to charge using the charge of one electron.



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Hi... I am working on this one too and would appreciate it if anyone could take the time to check my answers.

By the electrolysis of water, 11.2L oxygen at STP was prepared.
a) What charge was required?
b) if a current of 0.05A was used, how long did it take?

A) the text lists the following reaction
H2O <-> 2H+ + .5O2 + 2e- -0.82
since half a mol of O2 is produced the charge was the listed (-0.82)value in the equation as the equation is for half a mol of O2.

B)Q=It or t = Q/I
t= .5 mol / .5 amp = 1 second
(not too sure on this one for the value of Q - the quantity of electric charge transferred through a cell)

Thanks in advance :)
 
Maybe I am missing something but I did this question very differently than Gymstar and Yellowduck:

a) The molar volume of any gas at STP is 22.4 L
Therefore 11.2 L of oxygen at STP = 1/2 mole
1 molecule of oxygen requires 4 electrons (each O requires 2 electrons [tex]O^2^-[/tex]and oxygen is diatomic [tex]O_2[/tex])
Therefore 1/2 mole of oxygen requires 4*1/2*1 mole of electrons
1 mole of electrons = 9.64*10^4 C

(4)(1/2)(9.64*10^4C) = 1.93*10^5 C

b) t = Q/I

t = (1.93*10^5 C) / 0.5 A = 386000 seconds or 107.2 hours
 
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