Light Speed vs Vision: Is Optic Velocity Greater Than 300000km/s?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of light speed and perception, specifically questioning whether the speed of vision could be greater than the speed of light. Participants explore concepts related to light propagation and the perception of distant stars, considering both the implications of light travel time and the mechanics of vision.

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Main Points Raised

  • Joe questions whether the ability to see distant stars implies that vision's velocity exceeds the speed of light, or if it can be explained by light propagation phenomena such as diffraction and diffusion.
  • Another participant clarifies that when observing stars, we see light that was emitted in the past, emphasizing that we cannot perceive an event until the light reaches our eyes.
  • The analogy of a ball being thrown is used to illustrate that vision is dependent on light entering the eye, similar to how one would feel the impact of a ball before seeing it.
  • Joe acknowledges a misunderstanding in his initial thoughts after receiving clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of vision and light speed, with Joe's initial question remaining open to interpretation and clarification from others.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of perception and the mechanics of light propagation, as well as the implications of light travel time on visual experience.

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there's a question which is confusing me a little bit;
it is known and verified that the speed of light is about 300000km/s
well, as we look through the stars
which are very distant from us in thousands light-years
we notice that we can view them spontaneously.
thus, it doesn't take much time even though the distant is largly very great.

does this imply that our vision's velocity is greater than the speed of light,
or is it just an explanation for a light propagation like diffraction and diffusion, etc...?

Regards,
Joe
 
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A_I_ said:
there's a question which is confusing me a little bit;
it is known and verified that the speed of light is about 300000km/s
well, as we look through the stars
which are very distant from us in thousands light-years
we notice that we can view them spontaneously.

Actually, we view them as they were in the past. We see a star that's ten light years away as it was ten years ago.
 
A_I_ said:
there's a question which is confusing me a little bit;
it is known and verified that the speed of light is about 300000km/s
well, as we look through the stars
which are very distant from us in thousands light-years
we notice that we can view them spontaneously.
thus, it doesn't take much time even though the distant is largly very great.

does this imply that our vision's velocity is greater than the speed of light,
or is it just an explanation for a light propagation like diffraction and diffusion, etc...?

Regards,
Joe

Seems you have misconceptions on how light works. When you look at the stars you are seeing light that was emitted long ago. You can not "see" something until the light from that object enters your eye and is processed by your brain. If today a star 100 light years away blew up, or disappeared for some reason, we would not see it happen for 100 years.

The statement about your "visions velocity" is incorrect. Your vision is triggered by light entering your eye from some source. Imagine a ball being thrown in your direction. Your eyes are closed so you don't see it. The ball next hits you in the chest and you "feel" it. The same thing happens with light. The light is coming at you just like the ball but you never really "see" it, but instead your eye "feels" the impacts of photons hitting the retnia and the brain creates an image from the information.
 
thanks for clarifying the subject for me,
i was hesistating and i knew there was a mistake in my thoughts.
 

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