How Do You Solve This Limit Problem Using Synthetic Division?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a limit involving a polynomial expression as x approaches 1. The original poster presents a limit problem that involves synthetic division and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore different algebraic manipulations of the polynomial, questioning the validity of canceling terms in the limit expression. There are attempts to factor the numerator and discussions about the implications of dividing by (x-1).

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Some participants have provided guidance on factoring the numerator and simplifying the expression. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in the algebraic approach, and one participant mentions successfully using an alternative limit formula, while still expressing curiosity about the initial algebraic attempts.

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Participants emphasize the importance of considering values of x close to 1, rather than equal to 1, when evaluating the limit. There is also a mention of homework constraints regarding the methods allowed for solving the problem.

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This shouldn't be too hard but I'm stuck, brain is getting fried.

lim [(1+2x-x^3)-(1+2(1)-(1)^3)]/(x-1)
x->1

have gotten this far and I'm stuck:

lim (-x^3+2x-1)/(x-1)
x->1

Any help is appreciated, thx.

hk

ETA: fixed typo
 
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-x^3 + 2x - 1 = x - x^3 + x - 1 = x(1 - x^2) + x - 1

continue
 
working...

hk
 
I really really want to just cancel x-1 from top and bottom! But knowing I can't, do I need to multiply top and bottom by something to change the denominator?

hk
 
h_k331 said:
I really really want to just cancel x-1 from top and bottom! But knowing I can't, do I need to multiply top and bottom by something to change the denominator?

hk
The numerator has what you need. I just gave you one step in the right direction. Look for another step.
 
Well, I gave up and solved it with the [f(a+h)-f(a)]/h formula instead of
[f(x)-f(a)]/(x-a). I was able to get the correct solution of -1 (according to the back of the book), but I'm still curious where I was going wrong with my algebra on the first try. Thanks for your help Dan, I appreciate it.

hk
 
[tex]-x^3 + 2x - 1 = x - x^3 + x - 1 = x(1 - x^2) + x - 1=x(1+x)(1-x)-(1-x)=(1-x)[x(1+x)-1][/tex]

And you can see that the (1-x) has been factored.Simplify with the denominator and then take the limit.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
[tex]-x^3 + 2x - 1 = x - x^3 + x - 1 = x(1 - x^2) + x - 1=x(1+x)(1-x)-(1-x)=(1-x)[x(1+x)-1][/tex]

And you can see that the (1-x) has been factored.Simplify with the denominator and then take the limit.

Daniel.

Doh! Difference of two squares, I tend to miss a lot of those when one of the squares is 1. Thanks Daniel.

hk
 
h_k331 said:
I really really want to just cancel x-1 from top and bottom! But knowing I can't, do I need to multiply top and bottom by something to change the denominator?

hk

I just wish to clear up something for the record:

When taking the limit, we are considering values of x close to 1 but NOT equal to 1. Thus it is possible to divide by (x-1). Not trying to upstage anyone here. Anyway, by synthetic division:

[tex]\mathop\lim\limits_{x\to 1}\frac{-(x^3-2x+1)}{x-1}=\mathop\lim\limits_{x\to 1}\frac{-(x^2+x-1)(x-1)}{x-1}=\mathop\lim\limits_{x\to 1}-(x^2+x-1)=-1[/tex]

I know, I'm such a Johnny-come-lately.
 

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