Mastering Derivation: Techniques for Simplifying Formulas in Physics and Math

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The discussion revolves around techniques for deriving and simplifying formulas in physics and mathematics. Participants explore the relationships between various formulas and the challenges associated with translating these relationships into simplified expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the idea of using known relationships to derive new formulas and question the existence of shortcuts or tricks for this process. Some mention the complexity involved in translating relationships into expressions, particularly in advanced topics like quantum mechanics. Others inquire about specific types of relationships or formulas that could be simplified.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various methods and tricks being suggested. Some participants have offered insights into dimensional analysis and solving equations with common variables, while others are seeking clarification on specific relationships or formulas.

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There are indications of varying levels of understanding among participants, with some expressing a need for foundational knowledge in mathematics to grasp the concepts discussed. The original poster's request for methods or tricks highlights a potential gap in their understanding of the subject matter.

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I just have a quick question. I know that in physics and any other math, you can short cut your way if you know various relationships and thus you can derive various forumlas from a few simple ones. Is there any trick to doing this or an easier way, because i have never really been exceptionally well at it but i could always squeeze by.

If anyone knows any methods or tricks is it possible to let me know
 
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There are some notions about what formulae for certain types of relationships look like - proportional, inversely proportional, geometric, and so on. The general problem of translating a relationship into a nice expression is very difficult. It eventually does lead to very complicated formulae for things like QM.
 
DDS said:
If anyone knows any methods or tricks is it possible to let me know
Try here for converting units (which is sort of the same think. You do have to construct the equation yourself). For other thinks it takes understanding of what you are doing and quiet a bit of maths. e.g trapiezum rule in maths needs the knowledge of calculus so that you can see how to use the area of a trapiezum to work out the rule with different 'heights'.

What sort of relationships/forumulae are you on about?

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One trick I teach my students:
Often you will have two formulas with a common variable. If you solve both formulas for that variable, and then set them equal to each other, then that variable goes away. This is handy if you trying to figure out a problem where one seemingly important variable is always unknown.
 
I suppose dimensional analysis helps here too.

The units of both sides of your equation (when expressed in their basic terms) should always be the same. You can often use this as a guide.
 

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