How Do You Apply Undetermined Coefficients to Solve Differential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around applying the method of undetermined coefficients to solve a differential equation of the form y'' + 2y' - 3y = 8ex - 12e3x. Participants explore the process of finding the homogeneous solution and the appropriate form for the particular solution.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the correct form for the particular solution, considering the presence of terms from the right-hand side of the equation. Others discuss the implications of the roots of the homogeneous equation and suggest applying differential operators to both sides of the equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the method of undetermined coefficients and others suggesting alternative methods such as variation of parameters. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's understanding, but no consensus on the best approach has been reached.

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There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding the application of Lagrange's method of variation of constants, indicating a potential gap in knowledge that may affect their approach to the problem.

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Hello,
I have this DE:

y'' + 2y' - 3y = 8ex - 12e3x

when I find homogeneous solution I get

yh = c1ex + c2e-3x;

so now to find the particular solution by method of undetermined coefficients, do I set y to smth like this:

y = y1 + y2

where
y1 = Axex,
y2 = A3x ?

since one of the solutions to auxiliary equation appears on the RHS of the DE and the other does not?
I don't need the full solution, just confirmation/correction of this part.

Thanks much!

EDIT: if I take the fact that if y1 + y2 is a solution, then y1 is a solution and y2 is a solution. I guess I answered my own question. :frown:
 
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Well EvLer, it's nice if you first recognize that the RHS is a particular solution to a homogeneous equation with roots 1, 3 so that equation would be:

[tex](D-1)(D-3)y=0[/tex]

You familiar with those differential operations right?

Thus, applying that operator to both sides of your equation will make the RHS 0 right (it's a solution to that homogeneous operator which is set to zero). So applying it we get:

[tex](D-1)(D-3)(D^2+2D-3)y=0[/tex]

Are you following this?

So the solution to this is:

[tex]y_c(x)=C_1e^x+Axe^x+C_3e^{-3x}+Be^{3x}[/tex]

Now, take:

[tex]y_p(x)=Axe^x+Be^{3x}[/tex] and back-substitute into your original equation, equate coefficients to find A and B.
 
Why don't you apply Lagrange's method of variation of constants...?

Daniel.
 
Yeah, thanks, I got it 5 minutes after posting.

@saltydog: it's the same technique, only we follow it more step-by-step, where we solve homogeneous equation first and then based on the solution of non-hom. and hom. eq. we pick appropriate form of particular solution, and then do differentiation and plug it all in.

ARRRGGGH @ DE!

ps: don't know what "Lagrange's method of variation of constants" is but thanks, i'll look that up.
 
Lagrange's method of variation of constants is also known as variation of parameters. It is based on the fact that if [itex]y_1[/itex] and [itex]y_2[/itex] are solutions to an homogeneous ODE, then so is [itex]c_1 y_1[/itex] and [itex]c_2 y_2[/itex] by principle of superposition. But we aim to find the particular solution of the form [itex]u(t) y_1(t)[/itex] and [itex]v(t) y_2(t)[/itex]

The bottom line is that the particular solution is

[tex]Y_p(t) = -y_1(t) \int \frac {y_2(t) g(t)}{W(y_1, y_2) (t)} dt ~+~ y_2(t) \int \frac {y_1(t) g(t)}{W(y_1, y_2)(t)}dt[/tex]
 

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