What went wrong in calculating the mass of planet Mongo?

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The problem involves calculating the mass of the planet Mongo based on measurements taken from a stone thrown upward. The context includes kinematic equations and gravitational force considerations, with specific values provided for the stone's mass, initial velocity, and time of flight.

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to determine the acceleration of the stone and question the validity of the initial velocity and final velocity assumptions. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the stone's motion and the calculations for gravitational force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the initial and final velocities, and there is an exploration of the implications of the calculated acceleration of gravity.

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Participants note potential discrepancies in the calculations, particularly regarding the values derived for acceleration and the assumptions made about the stone's motion. There is also mention of the lack of atmospheric effects on the calculations.

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Your starship, the Aimless Wanderer, lands on the mysterious planet Mongo. As chief scientist-engineer, you make the following measurements: a 2.50-kg stone thrown upward from the ground at 15.0 m/s returns to the ground in 7.00 s; the circumference of Mongo at the equator is 1×10^5 km; and there is no appreciable atmosphere on Mongo. What is the mass of Mongo?

well i started out by finding the acceleration of the rock. I used V=V_o + at and from the problem, v_o = 15, and t=7.

Then I used F=ma to get the gravity force.

Then I used the general formula for force due to gravity. from the problem I used: R=1*10^5 / 2*pi (because they gave us the circumference) everything else is pretty self-explanitory. Since I have F, G, the mass of the rock, and R, I solved for M and got the wrong answer. Could anyone tell me where I went wrong?
 
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I used V=V_o + at and from the problem, v_o = 15, and t=7.
How do you know v?
 
It would help a little if you put some numbers in. A shot in the dark:
If you got an acceleration of gravity (a) that is less than [itex]4\frac{m}{s^2}[/itex] then you calculated that incorrectly.
 
thrown upward from the ground at 15.0 m/s returns to the ground in 7.00 s
Is this not an acceptable value for v_o? and, if it returned to the ground, wouldn't v be 0?
 
Is this not an acceptable value for v_o? and, if it returned to the ground, wouldn't v be 0?

No, v would take that value for maximum height.
 
...yeah I got a value less than 4...
 
So to get the equation to work out, I would just halve the time right? That would give me a V=0 at the max height. and an A of about 4.3m/s
 
Thanks a lot for the help guys, I got it now.
 
Berislav said:
How do you know v?
V = -V_o (?)
 
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V = -V_o (?)
The OP didn't state that, which lead me to think that he overlooked it.
 

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