Periodic Functions: Is There a Non-Trig Function?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the existence of continuous periodic functions that are not trigonometric. Participants explore various examples and definitions, considering both constructed and naturally occurring functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there are many continuous periodic functions that are not trigonometric, suggesting that defining a function on a closed interval and extending it periodically can yield such functions.
  • One example provided is the function Arccos(cos(x)), which is periodic with a period of π, although it is noted that it only equals x within the interval [0, π].
  • Another participant challenges the idea that Arccos(cos(x)) can equal x for all x, emphasizing the restrictions of the inverse cosine function.
  • There is a proposal that modulus functions and certain complex exponentials, such as e^(2+x*i), are periodic.
  • One participant presents a custom-defined function that aims to be continuous and periodic, modeled after the sine function and the floor function.
  • Constant functions are mentioned as trivial examples of periodic functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes a "man-made" function, with some asserting that all functions are man-made while others argue that not every function is constructed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of non-trigonometric periodic functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific intervals and properties of functions, but there are unresolved assumptions about the generalizability of the examples provided. The definitions of periodicity and continuity are also discussed without reaching a consensus on all points.

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Is there a continuous periodic function which is not trigonometric. if yes, what?
 
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geniusprahar_21 said:
Is there a continuous periodic function which is not trigonometric. if yes, what?
Yes there are very many. Define a continuous function on [a,b] where f(a)=f(b) then define f outside of [a,b] so that f(x+(b-a))=f(x). A simple example that is not trigonometric (even though it looks like it is) is Arccos(cos(x)).
 
f(x) = Arccos(cos(x)) = x, the identity function is periodic. Now besides this one and the trig functions, are there other non "man-made" (i.e. cut and pasted according to the process described by lurflurf) that are periodic?
 
I don't know any functions that aren't "man-made"!
 
...f(x) = Arccos(cos(x)) = x...

No, the inverse cosine function returns values in a specific interval (which I can't remember atm), so you can't have arccos(cos(x)) = x for all x.
 
Muzza said:
No, the inverse cosine function returns values in a specific interval (which I can't remember atm), so you can't have arccos(cos(x)) = x for all x.
That is right Arccos(cos(x))=x on [0,pi], it is also periodic with period pi, so it repeats all those values. I use Arccos with the capital A to make clear that I am using the principle value of Arccos not just any value that gives the needed value. This is a general way to write periodic functions. let f(x) be diffined and continuous on [a,b] with f(a)=f(b) then
g(x)=f(a+(b-a)(1+(1/pi)Arccos(cos(pi(x-a)/(b-a)))))
is a periodic extension of f that is f=g on [a,b] and g(x+2n(b-a))=g(x)
when n is an integer.
remenber the definition of a periodic function is a function is periodic with period p if
f(x+p)=f(x) for all x.
 
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Modulus is periodic, any real number to the power of any other real number + an imaginary variable is periodic.

For example, there is:
e^(2+x*i)
 
HallsofIvy said:
I don't know any functions that aren't "man-made"!
Every function is man-made. Not every function is "man-made". :wink:
 
every function is man-made yaar...mathematics itself is man-made ;) functions are infinite...i can define a function rite now 2 suit ur needs...lemme see...
f(x)=x-2n for x belonging to [2n, 2n+1) where n is any integer
= (2n+2)-x for x belonging to [2n+1, 2n+2]
check this out...if i haven't made any silly mistakes...it shud come out 2 be continuous and periodic...ive modeled it on the sin graph + on the [x] graph..lol...cudnt think of a better example sorry...cheers! ;)
 
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Constant functions.
 

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