Purple nocturnal roving jellyfish

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of purple jellyfish observed on a beach, exploring potential causes for their presence and condition, including the impact of red tide and environmental factors. The conversation includes speculation about the effects of weather and human activities, as well as the behavior of jellyfish in relation to these factors.

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  • One participant describes a significant presence of purple jellyfish on the beach, speculating that a nearby Navy ship may have caused their dismemberment.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of red tide, suggesting it may be responsible for the jellyfish's condition, but questions its impact on jellyfish specifically.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the effects of red tide, with one noting that it typically affects shellfish.
  • Speculation arises regarding how jellyfish could be torn apart, with suggestions that wave action may be responsible.
  • A humorous suggestion is made about jellyfish being caught in a waterspout and turned into a "clumpy purple puree."
  • Participants discuss the potential influence of hot weather on jellyfish survival and the possibility of them being washed in by currents.
  • One participant mentions the absence of new jellyfish on subsequent visits to the beach, raising questions about their fate.
  • There is a light-hearted exchange about the impact of fireworks on jellyfish, with speculation about their sensitivity to noise.

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Participants express a range of views on the causes of the jellyfish's condition, with no consensus reached on whether red tide, environmental factors, or human activities are primarily responsible. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact reasons for the jellyfish's presence and condition.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the situation, including the potential interplay of multiple factors such as red tide, wave action, and weather conditions, without reaching definitive conclusions.

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You've got your syntax all wrong. It's: nocturnally roving, weird, purple jellyfish. And, indeed, since they only do this en mass it's: "nocturnally roving herds of weird, purple jellyfish."


I've been down to the beach here the last three mornings and have been completely amazed by the greatest amount of weird, purple jellyfish activity I have ever seen. You can't walk twenty feet without encountering a piece of a purple jellyfish. Some are just blobs of purple jelly, some are torn pieces of jellyfish bells, and others are detached tentacle assemblys, all laying there with the seaweed and other sea stuff on the beach. I thought some giant Navy ship must have plowed through a massive school of them just off shore and chopped them to pieces with its huge propellers.

However, yesterday, I heard a guy talking to a guy at a coffee shop pointing out to him how the water in the crest of the waves looks dirty and dingy. This, he explained, was because we were experiencing a "red tide". A "red tide" he said, was a kind of infestation of the water by a particular kind of microscopic plankton that occurs from time to time. Up close, I observed that the sea foam has a distinctly yellow ochre color instead of the usual white. I suppose that is the "red tide" and now I suspect this is what's been killing all the weird, purple jellyfish.
 
Had you never heard of red tide before? :eek: I thought you knew everything. :wink: So maybe red tide killed them, but how were they chopped into pieces? Are there turtles around?
 
I thought red tide only affected shellfish.

Anyway, even if it does affect the jellyfish, it wouldn't rip them apart.
 
honestrosewater said:
Had you never heard of red tide before? :eek:
I'd heard the term and maybe even that it was a plankton thing, but I guess I'd assumed it would actually look quite reddish. The water merely looks "dirty" as though there is a lot of loose, silty stuff in suspension in it. I would have suggested "Ochre Tide" had anyone bothered to ask when they were naming it.
I thought you knew everything. :wink:
I do, but omniscience isn't what it's cracked up to be.
So maybe red tide killed them, but how were they chopped into pieces? Are there turtles around?
There are no turtles around here. My speculation is that the dead jellyfish must be getting torn apart by being washed back and forth against the sand by the waves for hours before they actually end up getting permanently beached. Last year I saw a couple of them going back and forth in the waves like this for several minutes before I got sick of waiting for them to finally land.
 
Perhaps they were sucked up in a waterspout,
whirled wildly about,
until they made a clumpy purple puree
spread across San Diego Bay?
 
zoobyshoe said:
I'd heard the term and maybe even that it was a plankton thing, but I guess I'd assumed it would actually look quite reddish. The water merely looks "dirty" as though there is a lot of loose, silty stuff in suspension in it. I would have suggested "Ochre Tide" had anyone bothered to ask when they were naming it.
It looks pink to red to brown in the pictures I've seen- and faint to very noticeable.
I do, but omniscience isn't what it's cracked up to be.
Yeah, tell me about it. :rolleyes:
There are no turtles around here. My speculation is that the dead jellyfish must be getting torn apart by being washed back and forth against the sand by the waves for hours before they actually end up getting permanently beached. Last year I saw a couple of them going back and forth in the waves like this for several minutes before I got sick of waiting for them to finally land.
I think some experiments are in order. How much power does it take to rip apart a dead, nocturnally roving, weird, purple jellyfish? It may be dangerous, but I'm willing to volunteer you. :biggrin:
(Of course, being omniscient, I already know this, but we still must satisfy the scientific community.)
 
this thread has officially changed topic ;)
 
honestrosewater said:
I think some experiments are in order. How much power does it take to rip apart a dead, nocturnally roving, weird, purple jellyfish? It may be dangerous, but I'm willing to volunteer you.
I believe the anser is dependent on the extent to which the "red tide" degrades the corpus jellicus in killing it, if that is indeed the cause of all this.

Another suspect I didn't think of is the unbelievably hot weather. It could be the water is too warm for them close to the shore. Or: it could be nothing killed them exept getting washed back and forth in the surf. They may have been swept in too close by a freak current.

Anyway, I was out there today again, and there aren't any new ones around. Most of the ones that were there yesterday are gone as well. The first day I went to the beach was July 5 and they were already there. (My first thought, of course, was that they really can't take fireworks.)
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Anyway, I was out there today again, and there aren't any new ones around. Most of the ones that were there yesterday are gone as well. The first day I went to the beach was July 5 and they were already there. (My first thought, of course, was that they really can't take fireworks.)
Fireworks? Do you 'spose people were blowing them up?

Then again, I remember that story about the exploding frogs. Could have been freak natural phenomena. Did anyone ever figure that out?
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Fireworks? Do you 'spose people were blowing them up?
No, I was thinking the jellies were just too sensitive for things like The Fourth Of July auditory bombardment, and were stunned into unconsciousness by it all.
 

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