How do I find the mass of a spherical gas cloud with varying density?

  • Thread starter Thread starter cronxeh
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the mass of a spherical gas cloud with a varying density described by the function D(p) = 9 - p^2. The original poster presents an integral approach to calculate the mass based on the given density and radius of the cloud.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for a triple integral to account for the three-dimensional nature of the problem, questioning the original poster's use of a two-dimensional integral. There is also a focus on the correct representation of the volume and density in the integral.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the integral setup are being explored, with some participants providing alternative formulations and questioning specific terms used in the original post. Guidance has been offered regarding the dimensionality of the integral and the relevance of certain factors.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the origin of certain terms in the integrals presented, and participants are addressing the assumptions made about the volume and density functions in their calculations.

cronxeh
Gold Member
Messages
1,006
Reaction score
11
I really shouldn't be stuck on those problems but for whatever reason i can't solve them

Problem: A particular spherical cloud of gas of radius 3 km is more dense at
the center than towards the edge. The density, D, of the gas at a distance p km
from the center is given by [tex]D(p) = 9 - p^2[/tex]. Write an integral representing the total mass of the cloud of gas, and evaluate it.

Solution: density = mass/area. The spherical cloud's area is 9pi/2
mass =9/2 pi (9-p^2).

So mass = [tex]\frac{9pi}{2} \int_{0}^{pi} \int_{0}^{3} (9-r^2) \ r \ dr \ dtheta[/tex]

Is this correct?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
If you are looking for a spherical cloud of gas you should have an integral in 3 dimensions instead of an integral in two dimensions. It should be a triple integral. Also where did the term 9pi / 2 come from?

What you want to do is find a triple integral that will give you the total area of the sphere and count the density function over that volume.

~Lyuokdea
 
Last edited:
Volume of spherical cloud with r=3 ->> V=(4/3)*pi^3= 4pi/3

[tex]mass \ = \ \frac{4pi}{3} \ \int_{0}^{pi} \int_{0}^{2pi} \int_{0}^{3} (9-p^2) p^2 \ sin(phi) \ dp \ dtheta \ dphi[/tex]
 
close, but you don't need the factor of 4*pi/3 there, the 4pi/3 factor will drop out of the integrals as such:

for a circle of radius=1


[tex]volume\ = \int_{0}^{\pi} \int_{0}^{2\pi} \int_{0}^{1}p^2 \ sin(\phi) \ dp \ d\theta \ d\phi[/tex]

[tex]volume\ = 2\pi \int_{0}^{\pi} \int_{0}^{1}p^2 \ sin(\phi) \ dp d\phi[/tex]

[tex]volume\ = 2\pi \frac{1}{3}p\right)^{3} \ \right]_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{\pi} \ sin(\phi) \ dp d\phi[/tex]

[tex]volume\ = \frac{2\pi}{3} \int_{0}^{\pi} \ sin(\phi) \ dp d\phi[/tex]

[tex]volume\ = \frac{4\pi}{3}[/tex]

Hope this helps

~Lyuokdea
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K