Constant acceleration physics problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving constant acceleration, where a car travels a distance of 64 meters between 8 seconds and 12 seconds. The challenge is to determine the acceleration of the car, given that the initial distance before this segment is unknown.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate acceleration using average velocity and kinematic equations but struggles with the unknown initial velocity. Participants suggest forming equations based on the car's position at different times and question how to interpret the graph for missing information.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, with some providing hints on how to approach the equations needed to solve for acceleration. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions that can be made about initial conditions.

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There is a noted lack of information regarding the car's position before the 8-second mark, which complicates the calculations. Some participants suggest assuming the car starts from rest at t=0 seconds, while others encourage reading values directly from the graph.

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Ok I have a question for everyone. Please help! I was given a graph with the problem, but I am going to try to put it in words. In the X-axis there is seconds. In the Y-axis there is meters. From 8 sec - 12 sec the car traveled 64 meters. The distance before the 64 meters is not given. It also states that the car is traveling under constant acceleration. Question is, what is the acceleration. I tried to solve it by first getting a velocity, 64 meters / 4 sec = 16 m/s, I used v= v_o + a t to get acceleration, a = 4 m/s^2, then I tried to use x = x_o + v_o t + 1/2 a t^2, but I realized that I can't use the v_o as zero because I am only taking the 4 sec not the entire 12 sec. What is it that I need to do. Find the velocity at 8 sec? How do you do that if a distance wasn't given to me?
Thank You
 
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Gadget said:
Ok I have a question for everyone. Please help! I was given a graph with the problem, but I am going to try to put it in words. In the X-axis there is seconds. In the Y-axis there is meters. From 8 sec - 12 sec the car traveled 64 meters. The distance before the 64 meters is not given. It also states that the car is traveling under constant acceleration. Question is, what is the acceleration. I tried to solve it by first getting a velocity, 64 meters / 4 sec = 16 m/s, I used v= v_o + a t to get acceleration, a = 4 m/s^2, then I tried to use x = x_o + v_o t + 1/2 a t^2, but I realized that I can't use the v_o as zero because I am only taking the 4 sec not the entire 12 sec. What is it that I need to do. Find the velocity at 8 sec? How do you do that if a distance wasn't given to me?
Thank You
you're correct that under constant acceleration (a), the x position is given by:

[tex]x \ = \ x_{0} + v_{0} \Delta t + \frac{a ( \Delta t )^{2}}{2}[/tex]

or:

[tex]\left ( x - x_{0} \right ) \ = \ v_{0} \Delta t + \frac{a \left ( \Delta t \right )^{2}}{2}[/tex]

where Δt is the elapsed time from when the car was at initial position x0 to when it's at current position "x", and v0 is the car's (unknown) velocity when it was at initial position x0.

let x0 be the car position at time t0=8 sec. Then let x1 be the car position at time t1=10 sec, and let x2 be the car position at time t2=12 sec. Then you can form 2 equations in 2 unknowns (v0 and a) and solve for (a):

[tex]( x_{1} - x_{0} ) \ = \ v_{0} ( t_{1} - t_{0} ) + \frac{a ( t_{1} - t_{0} )^{2}}{2}[/tex]

[tex]( x_{2} - x_{0} ) \ = \ v_{0} ( t_{2} - t_{0} ) + \frac{a ( t_{2} - t_{0} )^{2}}{2}[/tex]

where:

(t1 - t0) = 10 - 8 = 2 sec
(x1 - x0) = Read From Graph
(t2 - t0) = 12 - 8 = 4 sec
(x2 - x0) = Read From Graph (= 64 meters which u already know)

SOLVE for (a) by placing these values in the above 2 equations and eliminating v0.
 
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geosonel said:
... (x1 - x0) = Read From Graph ...
I wonder if you could read this from graph... :rolleyes:
Another hint if you like : You should assume at the time t_0 = 0, the car starts to go. That means at t_0 = 0s, v_0 = 0 m/s.
[tex]v = v_0 + at = at[/tex] as [tex]v_0 = 0 \mbox{m / s}[/tex]
so at t = 8 seconds [tex]v_8 = 8a[/tex].
Can you find the distance the car goes between t = 8 and t = 12 with respect to a? From there, you can easily solve the problem.
Hope you get it.
Viet Dao,
 
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If you can get slop of the tangent at t = 8 second that will be velocity at that time.
 
Gadget said:
Ok I have a question for everyone. Please help! I was given a graph with the problem, but I am going to try to put it in words. In the X-axis there is seconds. In the Y-axis there is meters. From 8 sec - 12 sec the car traveled 64 meters. The distance before the 64 meters is not given. It also states that the car is traveling under constant acceleration. Question is, what is the acceleration. I tried to solve it by first getting a velocity, 64 meters / 4 sec = 16 m/s, I used v= v_o + a t to get acceleration, a = 4 m/s^2, then I tried to use x = x_o + v_o t + 1/2 a t^2, but I realized that I can't use the v_o as zero because I am only taking the 4 sec not the entire 12 sec. What is it that I need to do. Find the velocity at 8 sec? How do you do that if a distance wasn't given to me?
Thank You
Gadget, i know your question has been answered but nevertheless i would like to point your attention to this intro on Newtonian Physics. Perhaps it might be of some interest to you in the near future :smile: .
Newtonian Mechanics Intro

regards
marlon
 

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