Dual major in chemistry and physics of physics and math

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The discussion revolves around the choice between pursuing a dual major in chemistry and physics versus a dual major in physics and math, particularly for someone interested in theoretical physics. Participants explore the implications of each path, including personal preferences, workload, and future career prospects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with chemistry labs and prefers the dual major in physics and math, citing less total credits and a more comfortable experience in physics and math labs.
  • Another participant suggests that the choice of major should depend on personal interests and the potential for enjoyment in the material, which could lead to better performance in grad school applications.
  • Some participants argue that while knowledge of chemistry could be beneficial, math is more critical for theoretical physics.
  • There is a discussion about the compatibility of math and physics majors, with one participant noting that their school allows physics courses to count as electives for math majors, suggesting a smoother path for those combining these fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of making a living as a theoretical physicist, with one participant questioning the competitiveness of the field.
  • A participant seeks advice on which chemistry classes would be most beneficial for a physicist, considering their minor requirements.
  • Another participant comments on the nature of advanced chemistry courses, suggesting they often focus on memorization rather than fundamental explanations, and recommends focusing on physics and math with a minor in chemistry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which dual major is definitively better. There are multiple competing views regarding the importance of chemistry versus math for theoretical physics, and personal preferences play a significant role in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the workload and compatibility of courses in different majors, highlighting the subjective nature of their experiences and preferences. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the best path forward based on individual goals and interests.

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dual major in chemistry and physics or physics and math

oops, I meant dual major in chem and physics OR physics and math.

So what do you think is better for someone who wants to go into theoretical physics? Should I go for a dual major in chem and physics and a minor in math, or a dual major in physics and math, with a minor in chem?

I am kinda getting ticked off at myself for flip flopping all of the time, but I realized that chemistry labs are a pain and I hate them, and dropping the chem major might be a good idea. There are no labs in math. :-p

I have already progressed somewhat toward a chem major, but that will just go towards my minor in chem.

At first I wanted to do a dual major in chem and physics because I wanted to do work in the interface between the two fields, but I have now realized that I want to go into theoretical physics, or maybe experimental physics..

I am going to talk to my physics advisor tomorrow, and I am going to make an apointment with the math chair to talk about this prospect. I just know that my chem lab experiences were not the greatest and chem experimentation is certainly not my forte. :rolleyes: I was a nervous wreck in uchem2 lab and orgo lab, but I am very comfortable in physics labs and math labs.

I dunno, I just want some support from you guys...this is a difficult time I am going through. One thing for certain though, the dual major in physics and math with a minor in chem will be less total credits than a dual major in physics and chem with a minor in math...so as far as total completion time and money goes, physics and math is a better option as well.
 
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Which major is better depends on what's important to you. If learning interesting material is important to you, then you should consider taking what's most interesting to you. If not having to much work is important, you might go for something less difficult. If you want a good job or to get into a good grad school, I don't know which is better. My recomendation would be to take what's most interesting to you. This way it will seem like less work and your more likely to do well, which will help getting into grad school and jobs.
 
knowing more chemistry could be useful in general, i suppose, but for theoretical physics i think that math would take precedence.

plus it's a lot easier to get along with a physics major! :-p
 
oh, man, reread your thread title:

"... chemistry and physics of physics and math."

the hell is "physics of physics"? some special program for triple majors? :biggrin:



anyway, to actually contribute something in this post, math majors tend to be more compatible with physics majors. say, at my school, the physics dept. requires two math courses beyond elementary diff eqs. a few more carefully-selected courses and that's a math major. similarly, at my school (university of florida), some physics courses are allowed as electives for a math major (EM, Classical Mech 1 and 2, etc.).

chem, on the other hand, there is very little compatibility, which i guess was why you were stuck with eight courses.
 
Brad Barker said:
oh, man, reread your thread title:

"... chemistry and physics of physics and math."

the hell is "physics of physics"? some special program for triple majors? :biggrin:



anyway, to actually contribute something in this post, math majors tend to be more compatible with physics majors. say, at my school, the physics dept. requires two math courses beyond elementary diff eqs. a few more carefully-selected courses and that's a math major. similarly, at my school (university of florida), some physics courses are allowed as electives for a math major (EM, Classical Mech 1 and 2, etc.).

chem, on the other hand, there is very little compatibility, which i guess was why you were stuck with eight courses.

yeah, overall math/physics is easier than physics/chem...and if I did math/physics I'd just use the chem classes I've already taken as a minor in chem..I guess..and I am not really going to worry about any of the math electives or physics electives, since physics will likely take care of the math electives and math will likely take care of MOST of the physics electives.
 
I just don't know if I can make a good living as a theoretical physicist...you have to be pretty damn good to get anywhere in that field...
 
oh, and since I only need 4 more credits to complete a chem minor (since I've already taken 17), what chem class would be most useful for a physicist?

What is the best combination of classes to take? analytical chem (2 credits), physical chem 1 (3 credits), intermediate inorganic (2 credits), polymer chem (3 credits), etc...

I am thinking physical chem 1 and intermediate inorganic, but what do you think?
 
Past a certain point it seems like chemistry becomes about memorizing reaction mechanisms (esp. with the organic and biochemistry stuff) and less about explanation on why something happens based upon more fundamental physical laws. I suppose the lab work is useful however.

So I would recommend physics and math. Maybe you could pick up a minor in chemistry. If you take any chemistry course beyond first year, take physical chem.
 

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