Calculate Magnitude of Force Exerted on q1 by q3 & Horiz. Comp.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the force exerted on charge q1 by charge q3, as well as the horizontal component of that force. The context involves electrostatics and the interactions between multiple charges.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Coulomb's law to determine forces between charges, with some confusion regarding the signs of the charges and the resultant forces when charge q1 is replaced by a different value. There are questions about the setup of the equations and the interpretation of the problem statement.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the correctness of their calculations and the implications of charge signs. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider vector addition for resultant forces, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

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There is confusion regarding the values and signs of the charges involved, particularly with respect to charge q2 and its relation to the other charges. Participants are also noting the importance of angles in their calculations, as indicated in the problem statement.

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Ok, here is what I have. See attachment to complete the problem.

What is the magnitude of force exerted on charge q1 by charge q3 and horizontal component of force exerted?

Formula: q1q2 / 4piEor^2

Part 1) (4*10^-6)(2.12*10^-6) / 12.56 (8.85*10^-12)(1*10^-2) = 7.628917917176 N or Rounded off as 7.63N

Part 2) 7.63 N sin 135 degrees = 5.39 N

Now I understand the above, howver what I can understand is the following. The resultant force exerted on the charge q1 by the other 3 charges is what? But what if we replaced q1 with charge -4*10^-6, what resultant force would be exerted by the other 3 charges?
 

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For part 1, your answer should be negative since the force is attractive. As for part 2, calculate the vector forces exerted by all the other charges and sum them all up to find the resultant force. If q1 is replaced by a -4*10^-6 C, then the partial forces you calculated to find the resultant force should all change signs.
 
Corneo if my answer suppose to be negative by force of attractive, than I am confused. The choices that I have doesn't have a negative solution at all. So is my equation set up incorrctly and if so, how should it be set up?
 
Your formula is correct but you forgot to inclue the sign of q3 in your calculation.

Recall that the electrical force between two charges is given by:
[tex]F = \frac {1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac {Q_1Q_2}{r^2}[/tex]

So for part 1) Q1 = 4x10^-6 C and Q2 = -2.12x10^-6 C.

Perhaps the choices for the possible solutions are wrong. Unless the question meant the unsigned magnitude of the force.
 
The original question is follow. "What is the magnitude of force exerted on charge q1 by charge q2?

choices: 1) 0 N 3) 3.77 N 5) 7.63 N
2) 0.108 N 4) 5.39 N 6) 10.8 N

The question I am confused about is : "What is the resultant force exerted on charge q1, by the other 3 charges? ( Hint: Note angles carefully)." It also states to selected my answer from one of the above choices.

Also you have Q2 as equaling -2.12x10^-6 C, but as I look at the image only q3 and q4 is eqaul to -2.12x10^-6 C and q2 is equal to -3 x 10^-6. Am I mis-understanding what you meant for your Q2 above?
 
Well I used [itex]Q_1 \text{ and } Q_2[/itex] as variables in general for the formula. Applied in this case, [itex]Q_1 = q_1[/itex] and [itex]Q_2 = q_3[/itex]. To answer you last question you can use vector addition to find the resultant force. The formula is

[tex]\vec F = \frac {1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \frac {Q_1Q_2}{r^2} {\vec r}[/tex]

However you could also just calculate the magnitudes of each force exerted on q1, then calculate the components of each vector and sum them all up.
 

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