Can you help me understand limits and continuity in Calculus?

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The discussion revolves around understanding limits and continuity in Calculus, particularly focusing on the delta-epsilon definition of limits, methods for determining limits, and the relationship between continuity and limits. Participants share their experiences and challenges related to learning these concepts.

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  • John expresses difficulty in understanding limits and continuity, particularly in relation to his teacher's monotone teaching style.
  • Some participants inquire about specific areas of confusion, such as the delta-epsilon definition of limits and methods for determining limits.
  • One participant suggests studying ahead of the class to better grasp the material, sharing their own experience of self-studying calculus.
  • John mentions challenges with graphing and algebraic aspects of limits and continuity.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of the delta-epsilon definition, with one participant emphasizing its relevance for a deeper understanding of limits.
  • John asks about creating mathematical formulae on the forum, indicating a desire to communicate more effectively in mathematical terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of understanding limits and continuity, but there are varying levels of familiarity with specific concepts like the delta-epsilon definition. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods for John to improve his understanding.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the delta-epsilon definition may not be covered in all high school curricula, which could affect John's understanding of limits. There is also mention of different teaching styles impacting student comprehension.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students struggling with calculus concepts, particularly limits and continuity, as well as those seeking advice on effective study strategies in mathematics.

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Hello everyone:

I am a new member of this forum and this is my first post. I was referred by an Astronomy.com member and so I decided to check it out.

First I would like to introduce myself. My name is John and I am seventeen years of age and a senior in High School. My Calculus teacher also teaches Physics and I am also his aide. Thus I have him for five out of seven hours a day! He is one of the most monotone people I have ever met and the way he teaches is as if he expects us to know this stuff already.

Inevitably, I find myself drifting off to sleep during his classes but for recently I have managed to stay awake to learn about derivatives. However, I do need to learn a bit on limits and continuity. If anyone here could help me with these two sections of Calculus, I would be most grateful.

I have been interested in learning about math and physics for a long time until I got into his classes. He makes them so very boring. He's a nice person, but I feel his teaching is inadequate and his monotony could put an unruly baby to sleep.

Thanks again.

John C.
 
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Welcome to PF.

Limits in general is a pretty big section of Calculus. Is there something specifically that you want to learn or work on? Have you covered the delta-epsilon definition of a limit? Do you know different ways to go about determining limits (graphically, algebraically, etc)? Do you know how continuity or discontinuity affects a limit?
 
Quick suggestion: If you can't follow your teacher because he is too boring then it may be beneficial to study ahead of the class.

Last year, as a senior in high school, I was also an assistant to my calculus teacher. English was her second language so she had an accent that made her hard to understand. Luckily, I had already taught myself calculus so not understanding her was no problem.

I also had a friend who always studied a few sections ahead of the teacher so he could just sleep in class and not worry too much about what he missed.

And remember, if you ever need help on anything, or if your willing help other people out on their work you can always come to PF's.
 
Well we are doing the delta "change-in" at the moment. So far we haven't had any problems with epsilon.

As far as what I am having trouble with is finding out if a limit is continuous or discontinuous and working related problems. It is quite annoying and yes I do find myself sleeping. I have read up on Calculus because I love to learn about it, but I still don't find myself able to put enough effort into the class itself. It is the graphing part that gets me sometimes, but I suppose the algebraic part is also confusing. If I come up with some example problems, I'll share.

I do have another question, however. How do you all create mathematical formulae on this website? Instead of me using something such as: x^2 times sqrt14 = 9, how do I create the graphical representations. I have seen it used commonly here. Thanks.

, marsbound2024
 
marsbound2024 said:
I do have another question, however. How do you all create mathematical formulae on this website? Instead of me using something such as: x^2 times sqrt14 = 9, how do I create the graphical representations. I have seen it used commonly here. Thanks.

, marsbound2024
You can take a look at this thread for documents on the LaTex typesetting.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997

Enjoy your stay here!

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Navneeth (aka SN1987A) :wink:
 
marsbound2024 said:
Well we are doing the delta "change-in" at the moment. So far we haven't had any problems with epsilon.

The delta-epsilon I was referring to is the formal definition of a limit. If you're taking AP Calculus AB or BC, your teacher probably doesn't cover this because it's not on the exam. My teacher certainly didn't. I think it's important part of understanding what a limit is, so it could be beneficial to familiarize yourself with it.

It states:

\lim_{x\rightarrow{c}}f(x)=L

If for every number \epsilon >0 there is a number \delta >0 such that |f(x)-L| < \epsilon whenever 0<|x-c|< \delta

Has your teacher gone over this definition?

And, as a simple example of a limit involving discontinuity, here's one for you.

\lim_{x\rightarrow{1}}\frac{x^2-1}{x-1}

This can be done by various methods, but try it algebraically.
 

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