Gravitational effect on proton and antiproton

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The discussion centers on the gravitational behavior of protons and antiprotons, exploring recent experimental works and theoretical models related to this topic. It encompasses theoretical implications, proposed experiments, and the challenges of detecting gravitational effects at the particle level.

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  • One participant expresses skepticism about the existence of significant experimental work on the gravitational behavior of protons and antiprotons, suggesting that gravity is negligible compared to other forces at such scales.
  • Another participant provides links to external resources, including a review paper on antigravity and a proposed model (Brightsen nucleon cluster model) that predicts gravity and antigravity interactions, although they note the lack of experimental data to support this model.
  • A detailed description of an upcoming experiment at CERN is shared, which aims to measure the effect of gravity on antiprotons. The experiment involves launching antiprotons up a drift tube and measuring the cutoff time for their detection, comparing it to that of negative hydrogen ions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the significance of gravitational effects on protons and antiprotons, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the experimental evidence and theoretical implications.

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The discussion highlights the challenges of detecting gravitational effects at the particle level and the dependence on specific experimental setups. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the models presented and the interpretation of potential experimental outcomes.

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hello friends,

i want to know recent experimental works,journals on the topic "gravitational behavior of proton and antiproton.

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I suspect that there is little or none. At those scales, gravity is negligable compared to other forces and basically beyond detection.
 
See the link below from, Momo Jeng, Department of Physics,University of California at Santa Barbara, momo@sbphy.ucsb.edu:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/antimatterFall.html

And this link which cites a review paper on antigravity by John Eades' in the Jan 1, 1999 issue of 'Review of Modern Physics':

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/sep99/937942960.As.r.html

I would also mention that the Brightsen nucleon cluster model predicts gravity and antigravity interactions, not between free protons and neutrons, but between mass asymmetrical nucleon clusters, such as matter [PNP] + antimatter [NP]--but this is just a proposed model, no experimental data at present to support such a claim.

And, finally, the following experiment that will be conducted at CERN, which is from this site:

http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/gravity_anti_gravity/gravmatt.html

EFFECT OF GRAVITY on antiprotons will be measured at the Low Energy
Antiproton Ring (LEAR) of the European laboratory for particle physics
(CERN). Antiprotons are extracted from LEAR at an energy of two million
electron volts, decelerated to between 10,000 and 20,000 electron volts and
captured in the catching trap and storage trap, where they are cooled to 10
degrees Kelvin (-263 degrees Celsius). They are then launched, 100 at a
time, up a one-meter-high drift tube. The antiprotons most useful to the
experiment will have a starting velocity averaging four meters per second.
As they drift upward the tug of gravity will slow them down. Hence the more
energetic particles will reach the detector first and the less energetic
ones will reach it later. There eventually will be a cutoff time after
which no more particles will reach the detector because the slowest
particles will not have enough speed to reach the region of the accelerating
grid before their upward motion is overcome by gravity. The experiment will
separately measure and compare the cutoff time both for antiprotons and for
negative hydrogen ions (black curve), which have the same charge and almost
the same mass as antiprotons. If antimatter were subject to a larger
gravitational force downward than ordinary matter, the antiprotons would
have a shorter cutoff time (colored curve) than the hydrogen.
 
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thanks rade

hi rade,

thanks for ur replay.i will catch u afterwards with a new query.

bye.
 

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