How can air resistance be incorporated into the falling particle equation?

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The discussion revolves around incorporating air resistance into the equations governing the motion of a falling particle, specifically examining two cases of air resistance: linear (av) and quadratic (Bv^2). The original poster has successfully addressed the first case but is struggling with the second.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the second part of the problem using integration but expresses uncertainty about the integrals involved. Some participants suggest substitutions and alternative methods to simplify the problem, while others question the necessity of certain mathematical techniques.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches and insights. While some guidance has been provided, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed with the second part of the problem.

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The original poster has a deadline approaching, which adds urgency to the discussion. There is also a mention of the need for familiarity with hyperbolic functions, indicating a potential gap in the original poster's mathematical background relevant to the problem.

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"A particle is relased from rest (y = 0)and falls under the influence of gravity and air resistance. Find the relationship between v and the distance of falling y when the air resistance is equal to a) av and b) Bv^2."

I already solved part a by integrating dv/dt = -g - (a/m)(dy/dt) with respect to t to give me v = -gt - (ay/m), and then taking force = m(dv/dt) = -mg-av and rearranging this to give me dv/(g + av/m) = -dt, which I integrated to get (m/a)ln(av/m + g) = -t + c. Solving for c and doing some algebra gives me y = -(m/a)(v -(mg/a)ln(av/mg + 1)) as my final solution for y.

Part b, though, I have no idea how to do. If I try and solve it the same way, I end up with the integral of dv/(g + av^2/m) with respect to time, which I have no idea how to solve. I also have the integral -g-(av^2)/m with respect to time, which I don't know how to solve either. If anyone can help me solve these integrals, or point out an easier way to solve this problem, I'd be most grateful.
 
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Does anyone know how to do this? I really need help on this one and it's due tomorrow.
 
ok, you have

[tex] m\dot{v}=mg-bv^2[/tex]

this will be a lot easier to do if you make the substitution

[tex] v_t =\sqrt{\frac{mg}{b}}[/tex]

where v_t is the terminal velocity which is when the right hand side of the eq. balances out. subing in v_t we get

[tex] <br /> \dot{v}= g(1-\frac{v^2}{v_t^2})[/tex]

then from here you can use separation of varbs to get

[tex] <br /> \frac{dv}{1-\frac{v^2}{v_t^2}}=gdt[/tex]

and simply integrat over v and t.
it may be very helpful to look at the hyperbolic functions most notably that of the arctanh(x).
 
Thanks man. That helps a lot. Now if only I'd studied hyperbolic functions...
 
You don't need hyperbolic functions, although that is an alegant way to do it. Another option is to factor the denominator into a sum and difference and then apply partial fraction decomposition. The resulting fractions only have linear denominators and can easily be integrated.
 

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