Proving a perfect square with factorials

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The discussion revolves around proving that the expression nC2 + (n-1)C2 is a perfect square for positive integers n greater than 1. The subject area involves combinatorial mathematics and factorial manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to manipulate the factorial expressions involved in the problem. There are questions about whether to simplify each term individually or to combine them first. Some participants suggest pulling terms out to cancel factorials, while others propose adding the fractions before proceeding.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different strategies for approaching the simplification of the factorial expressions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about the manipulation of factorials and the requirements for proving the expression is a perfect square, indicating potential gaps in their understanding of the problem setup.

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The tex seems to be showing different problems than the ones I'm typing... maybe it's just me, but if what I'm talking about doesn't seem to make any sense, please quote my message to see what I've actually typed in the tex tags.

If n is a positive integer and n > 1, prove that nC2 + (n-1)C2 is a perfect square.

Now, expanded, this is what they look like...

[tex]\frac{n!}{2!(n-2)!} + \frac{(n-1)!}{2!(n-3)!}[/tex]

I'm not sure whether to multiply by the denominators or whether I'm simply supposed to try to simplify each one on its own, or a combination of the two. Moreover, I'm certain I'll still have at least one factorial left when I'm through, and how can I prove that any function with a factorial in it is a perfect square? Could someone give me a nudge in the right direction?
 
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You should be able to pull a few terms out of the top so that you can cancel the factorial on the bottom.
 
Do you mean expanding the n! on the top with both functions until the (n-2)! on the left one and the (n-3)! on the right one cancel out the one at the top?
 
That should work, but I think it's a little easier if you add the fractions first. I'm sorry, I should have been clearer. I was assuming you were stuck at the step you mentioned where you had one term with factorials in it, and I was going from there.
 
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