Solve Bernoulli Equation to Understanding

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the Bernoulli equation, which is related to fluid dynamics and energy conservation. Participants express difficulties in understanding the solution process, with a focus on the mathematical formulation and transformation of the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests clarification on how to solve the Bernoulli equation, indicating a lack of understanding.
  • Another participant describes the Bernoulli equation as an energy conservation equation for fluid kinetics and asks for specifics about the difficulties encountered.
  • A third participant presents a detailed approach to transforming the Bernoulli equation into a differential form, suggesting a method to solve it by recognizing the relationship between variables.
  • This participant proposes substituting variables to convert the non-linear equation into a linear one, indicating that this transformation is key to finding a solution.
  • A later reply acknowledges the explanation and expresses gratitude, suggesting that the transformation approach is appreciated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to transform the Bernoulli equation for easier solving, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or steps to achieve this, as different approaches are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the form of the Bernoulli equation and the methods of transformation, which may not be universally applicable. The steps provided may depend on specific conditions or definitions that are not fully explored.

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can someone explain how to solve the bernoulli equation? I'm having a hard time understanding...
 
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The Bernoulli equation is an energy conservation equation for fluid kinetics. In what way are you having difficulty solving it? o.O
 
asdf1 said:
can someone explain how to solve the bernoulli equation? I'm having a hard time understanding...

You mean:

[tex]y^{'}+P(x)y=Q(x)y^n[/tex]

The key to solving this is to recognize the differential form:


[tex]y^{-n}dy[/tex]

and what, when differentiated, gives this. Well that would be:

[tex]\frac{1}{1-n}y^{1-n}[/tex]

Hey, I know it's not easy. They catch me in here all the time with differential forms.

Ok then so we'll divide by [itex]y^n[/itex] up there in the first equation and take the differential form:

[tex]y^{-n}dy+Py^{1-n}dx=Qdx[/tex]

Alright then,so that's what we have right, the differential [itex]y^{-n}dy[/itex].

So, let:

[tex]z=y^{1-n}[/tex]

and then substitute the differential form of this into the original equation. Here's the first part:

We got:

[tex]y^{-n}dy+Py^{1-n}dx=Qdx[/tex]


So the [itex]y^{-n}dy[/itex] part would just be:

[tex]\frac{1}{1-n}dz[/tex]

Do the rest and then get a first-order ODE in terms of z and x.
 
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hmm... so the key is to try to get the non-linear equation into a linear equation...
saltydog, thank you very much for explaining it to me! :)
 

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