Understanding Gas and Equilibrium: Can You Solve These Questions?

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The discussion revolves around understanding gas equilibrium and related calculations, focusing on specific homework questions regarding partial pressures, stoichiometry, and equilibrium constants. Participants explore theoretical concepts and practical applications in chemistry.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using partial pressures to solve a question and seeks clarification on how to start.
  • Another participant suggests that the amount of CH3OH at equilibrium will be less than 1 mol and asks for an explanation of this assumption.
  • There is a calculation presented regarding the equilibrium state of a gas mixture, with a participant attempting to derive Kc but expressing doubts about their results.
  • A participant questions their understanding of how to calculate equilibrium concentrations based on the initial concentration and the extent of dissociation.
  • One response advises calculating the number of moles from pressure and volume, and using stoichiometry to determine reactant consumption and product formation.
  • Another participant recommends balancing the reaction equation and using stoichiometric relations to analyze equilibrium concentrations.
  • A later reply addresses a misunderstanding of stoichiometric relations and encourages reviewing worked examples from the text.
  • One participant confirms that the understanding of calculating equilibrium concentration based on dissociation is correct.

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Participants express various levels of understanding and confusion regarding the calculations and concepts involved. There is no clear consensus on the correct approach to all questions, and multiple viewpoints and methods are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight common misunderstandings in stoichiometry and equilibrium calculations, indicating that these concepts may not have been taught effectively in some contexts. Specific assumptions about initial conditions and the nature of the reactions are also noted but not resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying gas equilibrium and stoichiometry, educators looking for examples of common student misconceptions, and anyone interested in the practical application of equilibrium concepts in chemistry.

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Please make your best effort to answer my questions. There are the select few i did not get from two chapters of homework.

1.) (See attachment).

I'm not quite sure how to work with this question. I assume i must use partial pressures. But don't really understand how to start. I assure you i made an honest attempt to do this question, but really can't figure it out.

2.) A mixture initially consisting of 2 mol CO and 2 mol H2 comes to equilibrium with methanol. At equilibrium, what happens to the amount (in mols; e.g. less than 1 mol, more than 1 mol) of CH3OH?

I assume that there will be less than 1 mol of CH3OH, but can not figure out how to put this into words. Could anyone explain why?

3.) At 850 degrees and 1.0 atm pressure, a gas mixture is in equilibrium is 90.55% CO by mass.

So: C(s) + CO2 (g) <--> 2CO(g)

Calculate Kc.

I assumed 100g of mixture. Therefore, there is 90.55 grams of CO, which can be converted into mols (3.2 mols). By using ratios, i conclude that there is 1.6 C and 1.6 mol of CO2. But this doesn't seem right and does not give me the correct answer.

4.) If i am told that in an equilibrium, the reactant (e.g. 10 mols in 1 L) dissociates to an extent of e.g. 9.5 percent, am i saying that the initial concentration is 10, and that the equilibrium concentration of that reactant is 10 - 0.095*10 ?

Thank you very much.
 

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1. From the pressure and volume of the reactants can you calculate the number of moles of each (at 300K) ? Now look at the stoichiometry, from the balanced equation, and determine which of the reactants (if any) is only partially consumed. Next find the number of moles of the product formed and use the ideal gas law once again to find the total pressure. Give it a shot and get back...
 
Thanks gokul.

Can anyone attempt to answer my other questions?
 
2. Write out and balance the equation for the reaction between CO and H2 giving CH3OH. Then use stoichiometric relations to determine the qualitative nature of the equilibrium concentrations.

Do, the first part, and if you're stuck, show what you've done, and we'll take it from there.
 
3. You misunderstood how the stoichiometric relations work...and this misunderstanding to common to too many students that don't get taught this correctly. I strongly recommend you go over all the worked examples in your text.

For this problem : you have the number of moles of CO calculated from the mass. Since the rest of the mass of gas (9.45 g) is CO2, you can similarly find the number of moles of CO2. From these two numbers you should be able to calculate Kc.

4. Yes, your understanding here is correct.
 
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