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The discussion revolves around interpreting the Uniform Building Code (UBC) related to seismic load combinations, specifically focusing on the application of factors in Allowable Stress Design (ASD) versus strength design. Participants seek clarification on how to correctly apply the seismic load equation involving dead load (DL), live load (LL), and seismic load (Em).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the correct application of the seismic load combination equation, specifically whether to apply a 1.33 increase in ASD or to multiply Em by 1.4 and then apply a 1.7 increase.
  • Another participant suggests that the equation, including Em, is a strength level equation and advises dividing the Em part by 1.4 for ASD, mentioning that the latest codes have removed the 1/3 stress increase.
  • Concerns are raised about local building codes potentially having specific amendments and rules that could affect the interpretation of the UBC.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct application of the seismic load equation, with differing interpretations of how to handle the factors in ASD versus strength design.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding local amendments to building codes and the applicability of certain design factors, which remain unresolved.

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Need help with interpreting the UBC! :biggrin:
 
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What part?
 
Bystander said:
What part?

The part of the special seismic load combo with 1.2DL+0.5LL+Em.
When I use this equation, do I apply a 1.33 increase if I choose to stay in
ASD, or do I have to multiply Em by 1.4 (to bring to strength level) and then apply a 1.7 increase.

My boss told me that Em is in strength level already and that a 1.7 increase is applicable.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, :biggrin:
 
Figured it was going to be seismic. At which point I can't help you. You might try the local building dept. --- if they're competent. Local building codes probably include very specific local amendments, and rules for application --- wouldn't surprise me, nor would it surprise me if CA has a blanket amendment incorporating "design factors to be determined from whatever counts as the latest study of damages from previous quakes."
 
Thanks for the attempt. :biggrin:

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Figured it was going to be seismic. At which point I can't help you. You might try the local building dept. --- if they're competent. Local building codes probably include very specific local amendments, and rules for application --- wouldn't surprise me, nor would it surprise me if CA has a blanket amendment incorporating "design factors to be determined from whatever counts as the latest study of damages from previous quakes."
 
I am sure you have it figured out by now, but that whole equation (including Em) is strength level equation. So for ASD, you would divide the Em part by 1.4 and then get to use a 1/3 stress increase if you choose (latest Codes have taken out the 1/3 increase). It is easiest to just start with the service level equations if you are using ASD: D+L+Em/1.4... etc.

Be sure not to mix and match factors between service and strength design.
 

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