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    Graduate Test if 2nd order diff eq. can be derived from a Hamiltonian

    This has been my approach. I should have added that the additional terms are a perturbation, so I'm trying to achieve even just the simpler goal of matching terms to the next order in epsilon. Even so, I'm only close in a simple case, and in complicated cases it seems hopeless to get everything...
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    Graduate Test if 2nd order diff eq. can be derived from a Hamiltonian

    Imagine I have a complicated second-order differential equation that I strongly suspect can be derived from a Hamiltonian (with additional momentum dependence beyond p2/2m, so the momentum is not simply mv, but I don't know what it is). Are there any ways to test whether or not the given...
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    Graduate Why are q and p independent in Hamiltonian mechanics?

    Hi Vanhees, sorry yes I've been reading all your posts carefully, I just have agreed with everything you said so I didn't comment on it. I am completely on the same page as you that the variational principle in the Hamiltonian formalism is more general than that in the Lagrangian. But I'm...
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    Graduate Why are q and p independent in Hamiltonian mechanics?

    Hm, thanks for the reply Mr. Vodka. I'd be interested to see what other people think. I'm not sure that looking at the Lagrangian problem in q and \dot{q} space is quite right. I think the variation is done in q, t space, and when you derive the condition for the action to be minimized, since...
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    Graduate Why are q and p independent in Hamiltonian mechanics?

    Mr. Vodka: If you look at how you derive the Euler-Lagrange equations in the Lagrangian formalism, you don't vary q and \dot{q} independently. What you do is you vary the path q(t), and that creates variations in q and \dot{q} that are related to each other through \delta \dot{q} =...
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    Graduate Why are q and p independent in Hamiltonian mechanics?

    Right, I think where I'm getting confused is that with Lagrangians, along any path you can't vary q without varying \dot{q}. I therefore have trouble seeing how you can transform to a Hamiltonian and now vary q and p independently. p = \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}}, so since L = L(q...
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    Graduate Why are q and p independent in Hamiltonian mechanics?

    Hi, A fundamental aspect in the Hamiltonian framework of mechanics is that the q's and p's are independent. I feel like I understand the steps in the Legendre transform from Lagrangian to Hamiltonian mechanics, but I don't see how you can go from a system where only the q's are independent...