Can Excel accurately calculate planet positions in real-time?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using Excel to calculate the positions of planets in the solar system based on geographic coordinates and current time. Participants explore the concept of ephemerides and seek guidance on implementing calculations in a spreadsheet format.

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  • One participant inquires about creating a spreadsheet to calculate planetary positions using latitude, longitude, and current time.
  • Another participant introduces the term "ephemeris" and provides links to resources for finding astronomical ephemerides.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in achieving accurate results when applying a formula from a provided resource, suggesting that the discrepancies may not be due to rounding errors.
  • Another participant asserts that the formulas are correct but notes that discrepancies may arise from differences between actual data from the JPL Horizons and calculated data.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the accuracy of the calculations, with some expressing confidence in the formulas while others question the reliability of the data sources used.

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Participants mention potential issues with data accuracy and the need for more precise data sources, indicating that the calculations may depend on the specific models and data used.

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Hi All,

I wanted to see if it were conceivable to create a spreadsheet you could calculate the position of planets within our solar system given a lat and long position and using the current time?

I've tried searching for something similar, or formulas to calculate these, but haven't had much luck. perhaps I'm just not looking for the right thing.

I eventually want to be able to create something in php, but figured getting it in Excel to start with may be a better way of approaching it.

Any help or suggestions would be hugely appreciated.
 
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What you're looking for is called "ephemeris"(pl. ephemerides).
You can find both astronomical and astrological ephemerides on the net. Shockingly, the latter ones are not necessarily complete bollocks, but might use some weird coordinate system.

Here's a couple of sites for finding (astronomical)ephemerides:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi
http://www.aphayes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ephemeris/index.html

And here's a guide on how to calculate planetary positions as used by the second one of the tools linked above:
http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/comp/ppcomp.html

Whether it's doable in spreadsheets is a different kettle of fish.
 
thanks Bandersnatch, really appreciate the help and explanation i'll have a look through these sites and give it a go :)
 
I've had a look at the last link in there and can't figure out why when I input the formula I get slightly different values. I don't believe it rounding issues as the variance is too large.
 
The formulas are correct.

It is just that data from JPL Horizons is actual data measures from the Barycenter Model and the data calculated my not be as accurate.

Try more accurate data:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/?planet_pos

Look at links on the bottom.
 
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