Playing the guitar, the difference between being good and being a genius....

[symbolipoint]

I'd like to read this article but I can't seem to get at it. Could you post (or maybe PM) a proper link?

I will take some time to try again. I had simply copied the link as in the browser textfield bar and pasted into the message body.

 

[symbolipoint]

That exact link in post #30, you'll have to reconstruct as interpreted from what I say:

hopefully you are a native English speaker.
ache tee tee pee ess, colon, slash slash
medium dot com, slash
@cvrsekharan, slash
this phrase in all lower case and each word separated by hyphen and without the quotes: "unveiling-the-secrets-of-musical-genius-nature-nurture-and-early-starters"
slash
hyphen
033174004b3e

I would have suggested to try your own search but I forgot the exact wording I used in starting my search.

 

[gmax137]

Billy Strings. Bluegrass to Hendrix.

 

[sbrothy]

That exact link in post #30, you'll have to reconstruct as interpreted from what I say:

hopefully you are a native English speaker.
ache tee tee pee ess, colon, slash slash
medium dot com, slash
@cvrsekharan, slash
this phrase in all lower case and each word separated by hyphen and without the quotes: "unveiling-the-secrets-of-musical-genius-nature-nurture-and-early-starters"
slash
hyphen
033174004b3e

I would have suggested to try your own search but I forgot the exact wording I used in starting my search.

I'm not but I will find it. Thank you.

 

[symbolipoint]

sbrothy,
I expressed the link like that in post #34 because, when I made my post #30, I simply pasted the text of the hyperlink; and then when you clicked on it, the page did not work for you. I also notice that in post #30, you cannot see just the exact hyperlink text, since it be turned into something else. When I click on it, doing so takes me to the intended page.

 

[robphy]

Try
medium.com/@cvrsekharan/unveiling-the-secrets-of-musical-genius-nature-nurture-and-early-starters-033174004b3e

 

[symbolipoint]

Try
medium.com/@cvrsekharan/unveiling-the-secrets-of-musical-genius-nature-nurture-and-early-starters-033174004b3e

I post here just to be able to toggle - on the square bracket button so I can see the tag you used. URL. Thanks.

 

[Hornbein]

David Lindley on slide guitar.

 

[sbrothy]

He described this piece as "a little hectic..."

Heh, I'm always confused when there are more than 6 strings. Funny with the Danish connection though!

Reminds me of the Swedish poet C. M Bellman. Nearly all his poems are about drinking your brains out, searching for the meaning of life among the crayfish droppings under the table, having sex and dying. All the really important things really.

Without understanding Swedish I'm sure it's pretty pointless though:



EDIT: Sorry this was the one. :)

 

[pinball1970]

One of my favourite songs by Yes and the guitar work is very good from the acoustic and electric side.



It is a beautiful track a nice start but what attracted me was the interplay between Anderson and Howe in the early verses, its quite minimal but the parts just fit perfectly.

For Yes, this is as close to a “song” you can get to, “Wonderous Stories” is a palatable song for people not used to Yes (one time, one key, no weird jump ins, add ons etc etc) the chords are cyclic and there is a verse chorus thing going on.

So, it is less Yes-like UNTIL the piano comes things go a little bonkers and then Howe goes to the electric.

Some nice lines, a tonne of sustain then he gets to the verse and it sounds like he doing modes as there is one peddle note.

Each run finishes in the next note of the scale but there are four chords in the back ground over that peddle.

Have a listen.

The song is based on Pygmalion apparently although this is about Roan making a statue of his lover before she dies, she dies, he dies then they are reunited ( I think – its Yes.)

 

[symbolipoint]

@sbrothy,
Although your o.p. is focused on guitar playing, to be aware that a very very creative artist, Brian Wilson, has from formal education, only an associate degree in Music, might be interesting to know.

While trying to recheck on that fact, maybe I much earlier misunderstood what I thought I had found; or I found information which was false.

I am seeing some online articles saying that he was studying for a associate degree in Psychology but stopped short by one semester and did not graduate. He was mostly self-taught musically.

 

[sbrothy]

Sorry for zombifying this old thread but I stumbled across this one and I... I... miss words.... Obviously, I'm aware that classical and/or flamenco (I don't even know which genre to put this in!) guitar isn't for everyone but I was flabbergasted!

 

[symbolipoint]

I... I... miss words.... Obviously, I'm aware that classical and/or flamenco (I don't even know which genre to put this in!) guitar isn't for everyone but I was flabbergasted!

Just my limited best guess, something from Romani culture, may strongly influenced by old folk trends of the Balkans region?

 

[sbrothy]

Yeh. That ended up being my guess too. Mazurka perhaps?

But man. Hardcore technique.

 

[symbolipoint]

Yeh. That ended up being my guess too. Mazurka perhaps?

But man. Hardcore technique.

Not sure. I would not say Mazurka. What I find interesting is|

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I am having big trouble trying to edit this
Some long sections , the note striking was done completely with his fretting/finger-board hand.

| done using the fretting/finger board hand. Pull-offs, hammer-ons.

 

[symbolipoint]

According to the video title, "Hora" is shown. T

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Suggestion based on a few searches seems to indicate, Romanian.

(I tried to edit this too, and it is messed-up).

 

[sbrothy]

You're probably right. I think I got it confused with what I read about it:

"The Mazurka is a Polish musical form based on stylised folk dances in triple meter, usually at a lively tempo, with character defined mostly by the prominent mazur's "strong accents unsystematically placed on the second or third beat [...] ".

and one I listened to later. Something like this: Mazurka D major Op.33 no. 2 (or 3) played by Lubka Kolessa

 

[sbrothy]

What i find incredible is how he can play like that with his left hand only on an acoustic guitar. I could understand it if done on an electric, but accentuating so clearly on an acoustic using only one hand strikes me as close to impossible. But clearly not!

Hence my flabbergastedness(?) :)

EDIT: So yeah, I'm really nonplussed. Do you have other fun words along the same lines? It is a linguistics forum after all...

Dumbfounded yeah, but I was searching for something a little more esoteric.

EDIT: flummoxed, gobsmacked?

 

[sbrothy]

But yeah, a little sunbeam: I took my terminally cancer-stricken mother out to buy nail-glue. I've never bought nail products before so having a woman beside me struck me as a good idea. So now I have glasfiber-base, glasfiber-powder and nailglue, so I'm ready to leave blues and take up flamenco.

On a darker note though: Her condition scared the bejeezus out of me!

 

[symbolipoint]

Be just reminded, this part of the forum is for "Art, music, history, and linguistics".

To the demonstration of playing a guitar with the left hand for both note selection/control AND striking or in other ways percussing the strings, check this other "Estudio Mano Izquierda":

(this extra link, deleting)
Not the way I want to place. I want to make the URL tag work but pf is changing what I put in.


NOTE: The musical playing begins at 0:24 of the timeline.
edit: I removed the redundant link & thumbnail, so just one is shown now.

 

[sbrothy]

Be just reminded, this part of the forum is for "Art, music, history, and linguistics".

To the demonstration of playing a guitar with the left hand for both note selection/control AND striking or in other ways percussing the strings, check this other "Estudio Mano Izquierda":

Yeah, my apologies. It got a little too personal. I was just overwhelmed with emotion.

 

[sbrothy]

Be just reminded, this part of the forum is for "Art, music, history, and linguistics".

To the demonstration of playing a guitar with the left hand for both note selection/control AND striking or in other ways percussing the strings, check this other "Estudio Mano Izquierda":

I'm just sorry I don't understand what he says! But I can see (and hear) he knows what he's doing!

 

[symbolipoint]

@sbrothy, I understand what you mean. Maybe I should go back and recheck just at what place on the timeline the musical play begins and report this in the posting.

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Thanks @sbrothy. Done!
Next I should edit to remove the doubling of the hyperlink. Physicsforums is automatically turning the URL tagged address into something else. I just want to avoid showing the whole YouTube thumbnail.

 

[sbrothy]

@sbrothy, I understand what you mean. Maybe I should go back and recheck just at what place on the timeline the musical play begins and report this in the posting.

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Thanks @sbrothy. Done!
Next I should edit to remove the doubling of the hyperlink. Physicsforums is automatically turning the URL tagged address into something else. I just want to avoid showing the whole YouTube thumbnail.

It's difficult to find examples of learning that technique. I get lot's of unrelated hits.

EDIT: In the meantime I'll be painting my nails.

 

[sbrothy]

Basically the keyword is "legato" but that's not the whole story. In the Mateuz Kowalski video from above there's obviously more going on. He's using his nails to push and pull the strings as well. It's way beyond me at my current level but as I said previously: I'm flabbergasted.

 

[symbolipoint]

Try another viewing of the Cacho Tirao video but change the playback speed to maybe "0.5". Some notes are playing using hammer ons and hammer offs, but many other string strikings are using the x finger (pinky).

 

[sbrothy]

Try another viewing of the Cacho Tirao video but change the playback speed to maybe "0.5". Some notes are playing using hammer ons and hammer offs, but many other string strikings are using the x finger (pinky).

Thanks. I'll give it a try when my nails dry (This is new to me, I've been biting my nails most of my life.).

 

[sbrothy]

I heard about some kind of nail gel which harden using the same light dentists use to harden the stuff they use for artificial teeth. That might be a lot easier....

 

[Astronuc]

t is a beautiful, a nice start but what attracted me was the interplay between Anderson and Howe in the early verses, its quite minimal but the parts just fit perfectly.

My favorite tune from Goring for the One is Parallels.

Great guitar, vocals, electric organ and bass guitar.




I saw them live in 1978 and they performed several tunes from that album.

 

[sbrothy]

I don't know why I'm crossing into Roma folk music but as with flamenco it's entirely it's own:



EDIT: His own composition I might add.