What Happened to Talent?

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The discussion centers on the decline of genuine talent in the entertainment industry, particularly in music, where Autotune technology is frequently used to mask vocal deficiencies. Participants highlight the disparity between modern performers, who often rely on visual appeal and audio processing, and past artists who prioritized vocal skill. The conversation also touches on cultural differences in performance styles, particularly between East Asia and the West, emphasizing the importance of dance in Kpop compared to Western entertainment. Ultimately, the consensus is that the industry prioritizes promotion over actual talent.

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  • Understanding of Autotune technology and its impact on music production.
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This was back when people needed talent. Today they stick any pretty in slutty clothes, put a microphone in her hands and process the audio to the point where you can't tell if she sings or not... And she might not be.
 
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I Googled Autotune a while back and came across some YouTube videos of famous modern singers with apparently good voices, followed by videos of them caught singing in a casual setting (away from a studio) showing that they can’t carry a tune at all. It’s pretty disgraceful.
 
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morrobay said:
people needed talent. Today they stick any pretty in slutty clothes, put a microphone in her hands and process the audio to the point where you can't tell if she sings or not... And she might not be.
Some of us can yet sense on our own how fine or not that it is. Talent, if that's what is to be appreciated and valued, really does count.

addition: I will not say here online what performers or performances which/who are popular are without talent.
 
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marcusl said:
I Googled Autotune a while back and came across some YouTube videos of famous modern singers with apparently good voices, followed by videos of them caught singing in a casual setting (away from a studio) showing that they can’t carry a tune at all. It’s pretty disgraceful.
I checked up on this and with the selection of five popular power singers I got I preferred the nonAutotuned singing.

I have seen a vid of Famous Singer lipsyncing while dancing that sounded like she couldn't sing. But she wasn't trying, just moving the lips and concentrating on dance.
 
Music video creators have only a finite amount of effort to expend. Most of it goes into visual. In the old days radio and albums were what was happening so nearly 100% of your effort went into sound. So you would expect the old stuff to sound better. And it does.

I watch a lot of Kpop and about 95% of their effort goes into the visual. Usually to me the music is worse than nothing. As you might expect.

I live in east Asia and dance is much more important than in the West. Traditionally it was religious. Nowadays there are dozens of popular dance groups from South Korea, Japan, and China. How many popular dance groups are there in the West? Zero, as far as I know. I get the impression that Westerns think it is immoral or in bad taste or something like that. So I've learned not to share it with them. I think it is weird that China is less straitlaced than the USA but that's how it is.
 
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Hornbein said:
Music video creators have only a finite amount of effort to expend
Entertainment is just that.
The industry itself is one of promotion rather than actual skill.
Whether a performance becomes successful is related to the amount of dopamine it instills in the brain.
And, most actors can't act. Nowadays the action figure is in a tight figure enhancing costume rules.


Hornbein said:
it is weird that China is less straitlaced than the USA
A throwback, still, to the ideology of the settlers who came to NA. People bring their culture, or what they think their culture should be, and attempt to impose it upon others. Example --> modesty --> Ed Sullivan Show --> Elvis Priestly and his swinging hips on live TV, Jim Morrison and the Doors with language and lyrics.
Times change, generationally.
 

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