Building a Refractor Telescope - Tips & Guides

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The discussion revolves around building a refractor telescope, with participants sharing tips, resources, and personal experiences. The scope includes theoretical considerations, practical advice, and challenges related to the construction of telescopes, particularly refractors versus reflectors.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on building a refractor telescope and requests documents and resources.
  • Another participant argues that refractors are more difficult to build than reflectors due to the challenges of grinding lenses and the issue of chromatic aberration in single-lens designs.
  • A participant mentions considering using an eyeglass lens and expresses uncertainty about whether to build a reflector or refractor, indicating a preference for a Schiefspiegler design.
  • One contributor shares their experience building a 12.5" f/5 Newtonian Reflector and provides links to resources for telescope construction.
  • A participant discusses their experience building multiple telescopes, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of different designs and suggesting specific lens options for various viewing purposes.
  • Another participant describes successfully building an 80mm refractor from surplus parts and outlines the cost and materials used.
  • One participant expresses frustration at the lack of specific building information and requests schematics and formulas for constructing a refractor telescope.
  • A contributor warns that eyeglass lenses may not yield good results for telescope construction due to their short focal lengths and small apertures, suggesting alternative sources for lenses.
  • A later reply emphasizes the futility of using eyeglass lenses for telescope construction unless it is merely an experimental endeavor, recommending the use of surplus binocular lenses instead.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using eyeglass lenses for telescope construction, with some arguing against it while others consider it. There is no consensus on the best approach to building a refractor telescope, and multiple competing views remain regarding the challenges and methods involved.

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Participants mention various assumptions about lens quality, construction techniques, and the availability of materials, which may affect the outcomes of their projects. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and expectations regarding telescope building.

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Individuals interested in amateur astronomy, telescope construction, and optics may find the shared experiences and resources valuable for their own projects.

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Hello there everyone...
Lately I've been working on the idea to build my own telescope...
now as the reflector telescopes are kinda hard to build (especially their mirrors ! ) I've decided to build a refractor telescope...
What i am asking is :
Do you have documents and website adresses or people that can guide me through the rest of the installation progress..? :)
I can even use some documents about building a binocular...
So any docs and adresses about 'refractors' are welcome...
Catcha later:smile:
 
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Are you purchasing the lens, or making it yourself?

Refractors are actually much more difficult to build than reflectors, because

a) lenses are more difficult to grind than mirrors and

b) a single-lens refractor will have horrible chromatic abberation and won't even come close to being as good as a cheap store-bought refractor.

- Warren
 
Hmm i didnot think about it.
I planned using an eyeglass lens as Newton did :)
also i couldnot make a decision about building a reflector or refractor...
as i said before mirrors are hard to build. But Schiefspieglers has a very attractive design. But i cannot find info on building anything but dobsonians...
waiting for experts to enlighten me !...
I am pretty sure that at the end i will start building a Schiefspiegler but a spyglass would do fine for the very first beginning... :)
anyways Thanks for any kind of help

CLEAR SKIES !
 
I recently finished building a 12.5" f/5 Newtonian Reflector on a Truss Tube Dobsonian mount. Here is a link to a pic along with a link to a great forum for telescope construction as well as other astronomy stuff.

http://www.astromart.com/messages.asp?message_id=99307&page=
http://www.astromart.com/messages.asp?message_id=44486&page=
http://www.astromart.com/messages.asp?forum_id=2

-Glenn
 
What is your main interest in Astronomical viewing? What do you want to see? This should be your starting point.

I have built three telescopes and have ordered parts for a fourth one. Each one has its strong points and its weak points.

My best planetary and lunar scope is a 4.5" f8 reflector.

I built a 6" f5 reflector that works fairly well for star patterns, galaxies, and nebulas.

I built a 2.5" f4 copyscope that uses a copier lens that I bought through Surplus Shed for $6.00 for the objective lens. This is good for terrestrial viewing, star patterns and because it is only about a foot long, it travels well.

You can buy up to an 80mm Objective lens through Surplus outlets like surplusshed.com They also can sell you the star diagonal and a rack and pinion focuser (unless you want to make your own. )

An 80 mm 900fl f11.25 Objective doublet will make a decent planetary scope.

An 80 mm 400 fl f5 will make a decent rich field travel scope.

If you are just worried about making your mirror, here is the web address for Orion Telescope. They sell decent mirrors fairly cheap. The main reason people make mirrors used to be that they couldn't get good mirrors for a low enough price. The commercially available mirrors especially the ones 1/8 wave or better, 4.5" - 8", and f6 to f8 or longer are probably fine.

http://www.telescope.com/shopping/s...ribute15=0&attribute16=0&RS=1&keyword=mirrors
 
I just finished a 80mm 900mm FL refractor that I assembled from surplus parts. It works great. I used a couple of black foam core ABS pipes 2' long 3" and 4" long 2" and a 3"x 2" reducer to create the tube.

The whole project cost me about $60.00 (I already had the eyepieces and I'm currently using the tripod and mount from my nexstar 80.) Next part is to build it an equatorial mount.
 
hmm.. this not really helping... i need some information on how to build it.. and also i may use some eyeglass lens for it so i need the schematics and also the formulas for a refractor telescope. not a reflector because the mirror is hard to make.. :)
So have a good day.
 
Eyeglass lenses probably won't make a very good telescope. The problem is they have too short of a focal length and such a small aperature.

Have you considered trying to find an old pair of binoculars and canibalizing them for the eyepieces and the objective lenses?

Here is a sight on optics:

http://www.synapses.co.uk/astro/j4.html

and here is a good article on building a cheap refractor similar to that used by Galileo.

http://es.rice.edu/ES/humsoc/Galileo/Student_Work/Astronomy95/telescope_design.html
 
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Originally posted by bombshop
hmm.. this not really helping... i need some information on how to build it.. and also i may use some eyeglass lens for it so i need the schematics and also the formulas for a refractor telescope. not a reflector because the mirror is hard to make.. :)
So have a good day.
Sorry, but trying to make a telescope with eyeglass lenses or anything other than a basic ready-made objective lens is a futile waste of time, unless this is just an experiment in bad optics. The scope you make will most likely show nothing useable at all. Much easier to buy even a surplus binocular lens (some people give them away for free) and a cheap eyepiece or two. Any math or schematics we could find would be above and beyond your originally stated goal. Special tools would be needed.

Labguy
 

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