Reducing u(t)+Int(0->t) to Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around the reduction of the equation u(t) + ∫(0 to t) [e^a(t-t1)]u(t1) dt1 = k to a differential equation. Participants explore how to differentiate the equation and derive an initial condition.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to reduce the given equation to a differential equation and obtain an initial condition.
  • Another participant suggests evaluating the equation at t=0 to determine the value of u(0).
  • A different participant reiterates the need to differentiate the equation but questions the impact on the second term of the left-hand side when differentiating with respect to t.
  • One participant recommends using the Leibniz Integral Rule to handle the differentiation of the integral term.
  • Another participant notes that the integral from 0 to 0 evaluates to zero, which may be relevant for establishing the initial condition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express similar concerns regarding the differentiation process and the evaluation at t=0, but there is no consensus on the specific steps or implications of the differentiation.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of differentiating the integral term or the specific form of the resulting differential equation. There are also assumptions regarding the continuity and differentiability of u(t) that remain unaddressed.

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How to reduce the equation: Show how the equation u(t)+Int( 0->t) {[e^a(t-t1)]u(t1)}dt1 = k can be reduced to a differential equation and obtain an intial condidtion for the equation.

Remarks: Int(0->t): integral from 0 to t !
 
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Evaluate your equation at t=0. What does that say about u(0)?

Differentiate your equation to get your differential equation.
 
arildno said:
Evaluate your equation at t=0. What does that say about u(0)?

Differentiate your equation to get your differential equation.

Yes I know I have to differential but if the diff. it with respect to t , what will happen to the second term on the left hand side?
 
yukcream said:
Yes I know I have to differential but if the diff. it with respect to t , what will happen to the second term on the left hand side?
Use the Leibniz Integral Rule.
\frac{d}{dt}\int_{a(t)}^{b(t)}f(x,t)dx=\int_{a(t)}^{b(t)} <br /> \partial_tf(x,t)dx+f(x,t)\partial_tx|_{x=a(t)}^{x=b(t)}
\frac{d}{dt}\int_{a(t)}^{b(t)}f(x,t)dx=\int_{a(t)}^{b(t)} <br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial t}f(x,t)dx+f(x,t){\partial x}{\partial t}\right|_{x=a(t)}^{x=b(t)}
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
for the initial condition you should know that
\int_0^0 f(x) dx=0
 
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