How can we afford space tourism without discounts and referrals?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of space tourism without relying on discounts or referral programs. Participants explore various ideas related to the costs and innovative concepts that could make space travel more accessible, including human-powered flight and space elevators.

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  • One participant suggests the concept of human-powered flight on the moon, proposing that the lower gravity could allow for unique experiences, such as flying in a large arena.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for significantly reduced launch costs to make space tourism viable, indicating a preference for a less thrilling launch experience.
  • A reference is made to a document outlining operational requirements for a space tourism project, including specific passenger and cost parameters.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the affordability of space tourism, highlighting the high ticket prices and joking about the financial implications for individuals.
  • There is a humorous exchange about the need for participants to work harder to afford the costs associated with space tourism, including a light-hearted mention of avoiding referral discounts.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of affording space tourism, with some exploring innovative ideas while others focus on the high costs involved. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach or solution.

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Participants discuss various assumptions about costs and the practicality of proposed solutions, but these assumptions remain unresolved and are dependent on specific definitions and contexts.

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One of the most enticing ideas that I have heard mentioned is that of human powered flight. The discussion I heard involved plans [involving a Japanese Hotel Company] for lunar games. The suggestion is that due to the 1/6 gravity, a large arena could be built on the moon in which a person could fly like a bird. This would be a little different that weightlessness; and surely it has its own appeal.

Also, we all know that for any practical system the launch must be much less exciting than now. More like a 4 or 3 than a 1.

I am betting on space elevators as the best solution.
 
Sounds cool.

Way outside of the project I'm working on's scope, but cool nonetheless.

This http://www.aiaa.org/education/students/2003-2004SpaceTransRFP.doc needs to be operational by 2010.

At least 5 passengers, at least 2 crew, at least 250km up, at least 2 orbits, less than $20M per ticket.
 
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less than $20M per ticket.

Um, I don't think Tsunami and I can save up 40M in three years.
 
I said LESS than! Less than!

You only need $39.95M
 
Originally posted by enigma
You only need $39.95M

Oh good! That will work.

Tsunami, your going to have to start working the bars again to help pay for this.
 
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Oh good! That will work.

Tsunami, your going to have to start working the bars again to help pay for this.
OK, dear. Same plan? You work your side of town and I work mine? And don't go giving your 10% discount for referrals again! I can't afford that!
 

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