17.1.08 y''+100y=0 Find the general solution of the given equation?

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The general solution for the differential equation \(y'' + 100y = 0\) is \(y = c_1 \cos(10x) + c_2 \sin(10x)\), derived from the characteristic equation \(r^2 + 100 = 0\), which yields complex roots \(r = \pm 10i\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing the form of the characteristic equation and how it relates to the order of differentiation. Additionally, the conversation touches on handling characteristic roots that include both real and imaginary components, as illustrated by the example \(y'' - 2y' + 11y = 0\).

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$\tiny{17.1.08}$
$\textrm{ Find the general solution of the given equation?}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y''+100y&=0
\end{align*}
$\textit{The auxiliary equation is:}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
x^2+100x&=0\\
x(x+100)&=0\\
x&=-100
\end{align*}
$\textit{Answer by EMH}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y&=c_1 \cos(10x)+c_2 \sin(10x)
\end{align*}
ok tried looking at some examples again but not?

this doesn't have imaginary roots
 
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The characteristic equation is:

$$r^2+100=r^2+10^2=0$$

Thus:

$$r=\pm10i$$ :D
 
so
$$y=c_1 \cos(10 x) + c_2 \sin(10 x))$$
 
karush said:
so
$$y=c_1 \cos(10 x) + c_2 \sin(10 x))$$

Yes, what if the ODE had been:

$$y''-2y'+11y=0$$

Here you find the roots of the characteristic equation to be:

$$r=1\pm\sqrt{10}i$$

What would the solution then be?
 
You are asking Karush whether he can answer that, not because you can't do it, right?
 
HallsofIvy said:
You are asking Karush whether he can answer that, not because you can't do it, right?

Yes, I wanted to see if the OP knew how to handle characteristic roots that have both real and imaginary components (complex roots in general). :D
 
MarkFL said:
The characteristic equation is:

$$r^2+100=r^2+10^2=0$$

Thus:

$$r=\pm10i$$ :D

isn't it??

$r^2+10^2 r =0$
 
karush said:
isn't it??

$r^2+10^2 r =0$

No, when creating the characteristic equation the order of differentiation translates to the exponent on the characteristic variable, i.e.:

$$y^{(n)}(x)\implies r^n$$

Therefore $y(x)\implies r^0=1$.
 
You can get the "characteristic equation" for a linear differential equation with constant coefficients by looking for a solution of the form y(x)= e^{rx}.

Then y'(x)= re^{rx} and y''(x)= r^2e^{rx}. So y''+ 100y= r^2e^{rx}+ 100e^{rx}= (r^2+ 100)e^{rx}= 0. Because e^{rx} is never 0, we must have r^2+ 100= 0 which has roots \pm 10i.

You only have an "r" in the characteristic equation when there is a y' in the differential equation.
 
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