MHB 17.1.08 y''+100y=0 Find the general solution of the given equation?

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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation y'' + 100y = 0. The correct characteristic equation is derived as r^2 + 100 = 0, leading to complex roots r = ±10i. The general solution is expressed as y = c1 cos(10x) + c2 sin(10x). Participants also explore a related equation, y'' - 2y' + 11y = 0, discussing how to handle characteristic roots with both real and imaginary components. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately forming the characteristic equation based on the order of differentiation.
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$\tiny{17.1.08}$
$\textrm{ Find the general solution of the given equation?}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y''+100y&=0
\end{align*}
$\textit{The auxiliary equation is:}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
x^2+100x&=0\\
x(x+100)&=0\\
x&=-100
\end{align*}
$\textit{Answer by EMH}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y&=c_1 \cos(10x)+c_2 \sin(10x)
\end{align*}
ok tried looking at some examples again but not?

this doesn't have imaginary roots
 
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The characteristic equation is:

$$r^2+100=r^2+10^2=0$$

Thus:

$$r=\pm10i$$ :D
 
so
$$y=c_1 \cos(10 x) + c_2 \sin(10 x))$$
 
karush said:
so
$$y=c_1 \cos(10 x) + c_2 \sin(10 x))$$

Yes, what if the ODE had been:

$$y''-2y'+11y=0$$

Here you find the roots of the characteristic equation to be:

$$r=1\pm\sqrt{10}i$$

What would the solution then be?
 
You are asking Karush whether he can answer that, not because you can't do it, right?
 
HallsofIvy said:
You are asking Karush whether he can answer that, not because you can't do it, right?

Yes, I wanted to see if the OP knew how to handle characteristic roots that have both real and imaginary components (complex roots in general). :D
 
MarkFL said:
The characteristic equation is:

$$r^2+100=r^2+10^2=0$$

Thus:

$$r=\pm10i$$ :D

isn't it??

$r^2+10^2 r =0$
 
karush said:
isn't it??

$r^2+10^2 r =0$

No, when creating the characteristic equation the order of differentiation translates to the exponent on the characteristic variable, i.e.:

$$y^{(n)}(x)\implies r^n$$

Therefore $y(x)\implies r^0=1$.
 
You can get the "characteristic equation" for a linear differential equation with constant coefficients by looking for a solution of the form y(x)= e^{rx}.

Then y'(x)= re^{rx} and y''(x)= r^2e^{rx}. So y''+ 100y= r^2e^{rx}+ 100e^{rx}= (r^2+ 100)e^{rx}= 0. Because e^{rx} is never 0, we must have r^2+ 100= 0 which has roots \pm 10i.

You only have an "r" in the characteristic equation when there is a y' in the differential equation.
 
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