-2.2.2 Separable eq y'=(x^2)/y(1+x^3)

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The discussion revolves around solving the separable differential equation given by $$y'=\frac{x^2}{y(1+x^3)}$$. Participants explore various methods of separation and integration, as well as the implications of their approaches.

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  • One participant suggests multiplying both sides by the denominator to manipulate the equation, but expresses uncertainty about the next steps.
  • Another participant proposes separating the variables directly and integrating, presenting a specific form for the integration.
  • A different approach is shared where the participant integrates both sides after separating the variables, leading to a derived equation involving logarithms.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of using absolute values in the context of the logarithmic integration, with one participant affirming its importance.
  • Concerns are raised about editing posts after replies have been made, affecting the coherence of the discussion.

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Participants express differing methods for solving the equation, and there is no consensus on the best approach or the handling of absolute values in the integration process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal steps to take.

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Some participants' approaches depend on specific assumptions about the functions involved, such as the treatment of absolute values in logarithmic expressions. There are also unresolved issues regarding the clarity of the discussion due to post edits.

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use Separable Equations to solve

$$y'= \frac{x^2}{y(1+x^3)}$$
Multiply both sides by the denominator
$$y(1+x^3)y'=x^2$$
Subtract $x^2$ from both sides
$$-x^2 +y(1+x^3)y'=0$$

ok was trying to follow an example but ?
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We are given:

$$y'=\frac{x^2}{y(1+x^3)}$$

I would separate the variables:

$$y\,dy=\frac{x^2}{x^3+1}\,dx$$

Now integrate...
 
use Separable Equations to solve

\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y'&= \frac{x^2}{y(1+x^3)}\\
yy'&=\frac{x^2}{(1+x^3)}\\
\int y \, dy&=\int \frac{x^2}{(1+x^3)} \, dx\\
\frac{y^2}{2}&=\frac{ \ln(x^3 + 1)}{3} + c\\
3y^2−2\ln|1+x^3|&=c\\
x&\ne−1, \\
y&\ne 0
\end{align*}

kinda winged it...
 
You do need to make up your mind about the absolute value. Yes, in this case.
 
Please don't edit you post after someone has replied based on that post. I have reverted the OP so my subsequent post makes sense, but now the attachment is bad.
 
there was no reply yet when i edited the OP
 

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