2-body collision: Min and Max speed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an elastic collision between two balls of different masses, focusing on determining the maximum and minimum speeds of the second ball after the collision. The context is within the realm of classical mechanics, specifically dealing with concepts of momentum and energy conservation in collisions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the problem using different methods, including the center of mass frame and conservation principles. They question why the calculated maximum speed is not the actual acquired speed and whether the collision is assumed to be head-on.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of assuming a head-on collision versus a non-head-on collision. Some have clarified that the maximum speed occurs in a head-on scenario, while others are questioning the conditions for the minimum speed.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the type of collision (head-on vs. non-head-on) and how these assumptions affect the outcomes for the speeds of the second ball.

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Homework Statement



A ball of mass M traveling at non-relativistic speed v elastically collides with a stationary ball of mass m.

(a)Show that the maximum speed which the second ball can have is:

2Mv/(M+m)(b)What is the minimum speed?

The Attempt at a Solution



(a)
Method 1

Go into ZMF frame:

step 1: find VCM
step 2: u2' = u2 - VCM
step 2: pi = pf = 0
step 3: v2' = -u2
step 4: go back into lab frame by adding VCM

Method 2

1)Speed of approach = speed of separation
2)conservation of momentum
3)done.

But the puzzling thing is that why is this the maximum speed? Isn't this the actual acquired speed?

(b)
Do we assume a head-on collision? If it is a head-on collision won't the speed be the same as part (a)?

assuming a non head-on collision by including angles and stuff doesn't help..
 
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If you assume a head-on collision where the second ball travels in the initial direction of ball 1, this is the maximal speed.
Every other collision will give a lower speed.
 
mfb said:
If you assume a head-on collision where the second ball travels in the initial direction of ball 1, this is the maximal speed.
Every other collision will give a lower speed.

so for part (b) it isn't a head-on collision?
 

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