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2007, year of the craddle robbing teachers?

  1. Mar 30, 2008 #1
    Emily Streb
    Student's age: 16
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9212/strebzd3.jpg
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258043,00.html

    Lauren Kathleen Palmer
    Student's age: 16 [girl]
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1881/palmerri0.jpg
    http://media.www.arbiteronline.com/...Softball.Coach.Faces.Sex.Charge-2892488.shtml


    Christina Lin Butler
    Student's age: 16
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4188/butlerxp0.jpg
    http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=07068230

    Jennifer Rice
    Student's age: 10. Yes, 10.
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5259/ricepu4.jpg
    http://www.komotv.com/news/9134346.html

    Sheryl A. Nawahine
    Student's age: 16
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4950/nawahineec9.jpg
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/167156.html

    Kimberly Nack
    Student's age: 16
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5945/nackzz3.jpg
    http://www.kxmb.com/t/fargo-nd/84669.asp

    Christine Scarlett
    Student's age: 17
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9248/scarlettok9.jpg
    http://www.wkyc.com/news/education/education_article.aspx?storyid=69493

    Angela Renee Comer
    Student's age: 14
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2267/comerbt3.jpg
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-05-09-teacher-sex-charges_N.htm


    Heather Thorsby
    Student's age: 17
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8388/thorsbywh0.jpg
    http://www.wsmv.com/news/13323163/detail.html?subid=10106691


    Erica Umosella
    Student's age: 17
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4844/umosellahc8.jpg
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3165209

    Carrie Bishop
    Student's age: 17
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6252/bishopiu3.jpg
    http://hamptonroads.com/node/275271


    Darcie Esson
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9458/flemingih6.jpg
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/13345697/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news

    Tammie Fleming
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9458/flemingih6.jpg
    http://www.nbc12.com/news/state/9169632.html


    Jessica Ashley Kahal
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2100/kahalej6.jpg
    http://www.knbc.com/news/14322718/detail.html

    Julie Miller Culbertson
    Student's age: unclear, "teen" [girl]
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2734/culbertsonaq4.jpg
    http://www.blueridgenow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070508/NEWS/705080333/1151

    Janet Susan Gallager Parker
    Student's age: unclear ("middleschool")
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4875/parkersx2.jpg
    http://www.dailysentinel.com/hp/content/news/stories/2007/05/31/teacher_arrested.html

    Cris Lynn Morris
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/166/morrisgh0.jpg
    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=2032444

    Allenna Ward
    Student's age: unclear ("several", "middleschool")
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8985/wardho6.jpg
    http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=53250

    Janelle Batkins
    Student's age: 17
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8738/batkinsbd1.jpg
    http://www.candgnews.com/Homepage-Articles/2007/11-7-07/EE-BATKINS.asp

    Kirsten Ann Kinley
    Student's age: 15
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4543/kinleyix1.jpg
    http://wjz.com/topstories/teen.sex.teacher.2.425517.html

    Stephanie Ann Stein
    Student's age: 15
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1008/steinhb5.jpg
    http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2007/09/meet-stephanie-.html

    Karen Robbins
    Student's age: 15
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/152/robbinsxj7.jpg
    http://www.wyff4.com/news/14181940/detail.html

    Holly Hatcher
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3930/hatcherxu8.jpg
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/428730/holly_hatcher_brings_to_light_teachers.html


    Meredith Hollen
    Student's age: unclear
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6748/hollenyc7.jpg
    http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7481972

    Jeri Perez
    Student's age: 14
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6677/pereznt0.jpg
    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/83285

    Tonya Johnson
    Student's age: 12
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9287/johnsonyn3.jpg
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13272259/detail.html

    Brandy Reynolds
    Student's age: 15
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5756/reynoldsql2.jpg
    http://www.ketv.com/news/13444139/detail.html

    Kanesa Hopkins
    Student's age: 13 [girl]
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3629/hopkinsud0.jpg
    http://www.live5news.com/news/state/7635701.html

    Maurna Thornton [Link to her homepage]
    Student's age: 14
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8726/thorntonbe6.jpg
    https://secure.townnews.com/shared-...s/2007/05/02/news/news1.txt&discover=0&amex=0

    Janet Botton Klatt
    Student's age: 16
    http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5966/bottonklatter7.jpg
    http://www.independenttribune.com/s...IT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137836448701

    Amber Marshall
    Student's age: "several", "teenaged
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6246/marshallby3.jpg
    http://www.thetimesonline.com/artic..._news/docc112a144027b43c2862573140003b0de.txt

    Jennifer Mally
    Student's age: 16
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6424/mallynh1.jpg
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3136624

    Jean Panzo-Montalbano
    Student's age: 16
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/448/montalbanomo7.jpg
    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local&id=5184283

    Julie Petty
    Student's age: 14 [girl]
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1696/pettycl1.jpg
    http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=6553797

    Wendie Ann Schweikert
    Student's age: 11
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3461/schweikertng6.jpg
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-02-teacher-sex-sentence_N.htm

    Kelli Jo Camp
    Student's age: 17
    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/508/campxv9.jpg
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-02-teacher-sex-sentence_N.htm

    Do women child molesters get different treatment?
     
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  3. Mar 30, 2008 #2

    Gokul43201

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    Was that rhetorical? How many of these teachers from Tampa? If there's no Tampa teachers there, then 2008 will be the year of the Tampa Teachers....making a strong comeback to the glory days of Lafave.

     
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  4. Mar 30, 2008 #3

    Evo

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    gravenewworld, you are going to need to supply a link to a credible source showing a conviction of each one of those teachers.
     
  5. Mar 30, 2008 #4
    What do you mean by teachers? Or are you showing the pic of the teacher and the age of the victim. Either way your stuff is confusing. No wonder their child moles, they're all ugly.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2008 #5

    russ_watters

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    It's a little early to be asking about convictions for most of them. A quick google on any you haven't heard of will get the info on the case, though.
     
  7. Mar 30, 2008 #6

    Evo

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    Yeah, but you know that's not how it works here, the OP has to present sources, members aren't supposed to hunt them down. Instead of taking the time to hunt down and upload pictures, supplying the links to the information is what is required.
     
  8. Mar 30, 2008 #7
    I don't blame the students at all. Some of them are good looking!
     
  9. Mar 30, 2008 #8

    Gokul43201

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    The link below appears to quote news articles describing the indictment of the teachers on the list, but there are no proper citations.

    Edit - removed link - looks more like hit jobs than mainstream news.
     
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  10. Mar 30, 2008 #9
    Cradle-robbing? I was out of my cradle before I was 12, not to mention 15 or 17.
     
  11. Mar 31, 2008 #10
    To my shame I couldn't help - while reading about some of those - but think of the South Park episode where the teacher sleeps with Kail's brother, and the police are completely blasé about it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzUD2Ulam5I&feature=related

    "We need to track this boy down and give him his luckiest boy in America medal right away"

    :rofl: I know it's wrong but there's a sort of double standard I think.
     
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  12. Mar 31, 2008 #11

    Kurdt

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    I think its because its the earliest male fantasy isn't it. You wish your hot female teacher would take you into the gym equipment cupboard and do naughty things.

    Unless that was just me :uhh:.

    Perhaps they should have female judges.

    So is it 18 in the states when one can give consent?
     
  13. Mar 31, 2008 #12
    Varies from state to state, but yes often.

    Exactly when you hear about it happening to some 16 year old kid, you just go, lucky sod. :smile:

    But if it's a sixteen your old girl you're like, wow he was completely abusing his position of authority etc. That's despite it being illegal anyway even if she is 16+.
     
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  14. Mar 31, 2008 #13

    Moonbear

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    They haven't all gone to trial yet for there to be convictions, but I doubt the number this year is unusual. Child molesters have always found their way into professions that involve working with children. What's new is that 1) they are gaining more press coverage of the problem and 2) people have started to take the claims more seriously when the perpetrator of a sexual offense is a woman...basically due to the attitudes described by Kurdt and SD that the boys "want it" (somewhat like the way they used to blame the female victims of rape as "promiscuous" if they knew their rapist).
     
  15. Mar 31, 2008 #14
    What I want to know is what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The entire original post seems to go against this concept, since not all of them (any?) have gone to trial.
     
  16. Mar 31, 2008 #15

    Evo

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    Some aren't even being charged because there was no sexual contact.
     
  17. Mar 31, 2008 #16

    chroot

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    And, let's be honest... playing hide-the-snake with a 17 year old is about as much "child molestation" as having a beer on Saturday night is alcoholism.

    - Warren
     
  18. Mar 31, 2008 #17
    In this country it's illegal past 16, because the teacher is in a position of authority, which they have abused to sleep with someone under it. It's not child molestation, but it isn't strictly good practice either, or without being a bit of a moral quagmire.
     
  19. Mar 31, 2008 #18

    Moonbear

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    That's why the issue of consent is so difficult in these cases. Even if the student seemed willing, were they willing because they were just a horny teen with a hot teacher, or were they willing because of the teacher's position of authority potentially resulting in them getting a better grade?

    This attitude of "We all know he wanted it" is the same attitude that used to keep girls/women from testifying against their rapists, "But she wanted it...even while saying 'no, stop' the whole time."

    Teachers are all well aware they aren't supposed to have relations with their students. If there's really more to it than an infatuated student and teacher who wants to take advantage, then there's no reason it can't wait another year until the student is over 18 and graduated from high school, when it is completely legal and ethical.
     
  20. Mar 31, 2008 #19

    chroot

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    I'm not saying these teachers should not be held accountable for what is surely -- at a minimum -- unethical behavior. At the same time, I don't think it's reasonable to call someone who gets involved with a 17 year old a "cradle robber" or a "child molester." Clearly, a 17 year old is a physically mature person, and many (most?) are mentally mature enough to make whatever choices they like. They're well above the age of consent in many states. In some cases, they are literally days away from their 18th birthday and all federal rights of adulthood. I think it's really pretty stupid that our society wastes so much time and money on these kinds of non-violent, victimless "crimes."

    - Warren
     
  21. Apr 1, 2008 #20
    I remember there was a case where a guy was going to face 3 years in prison for having underage sex, with a minor (it was in fact oral sex) The fact that he was 17 and his girlfriend 16 seemed to be beside the point. Utterly absurd. I remember it because some people at the time saying, well the laws the law, tough and so on. Which I found utterly absurd? A kid is going to have 3 years of his life taken away for indulging in an act that probably a million horny teenagers pre 18 have indulged in, :confused: Is that sensible, the laws meant to protect children from adults not other horny teens. You can't legislate against behaviour of children, in this case, it's just not what the law is about. That said I think it's right that teacher pupil sex is broadly illegal. As already said there's no reason why they can't wait until the pupil is no longer a pupil, if there is nothing untoward going on.
     
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