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When she is finishing writing up a PhD you have to be careful approaching her for any reason!
moe darklight said:This is an outrage!
Where were all those teachers when I was in school!
Schrodinger's Dog said:There was a teacher like that at my school but I only found out about her after I left. Shame really, if only I had of been that much worse at English, instead of bad at it. I'd of been put down a class. Still spilt milk.
moe darklight said:This is an outrage!
Where were all those teachers when I was in school!
chroot said:Again, it's a silly waste of resources, all trying to uphold silly victimless crime laws (read: church laws). If anyone ever sits on a jury for one of these kinds of crimes, consider voting not guilty, no matter how obviously the person violated the idiotic law. Exercise jury nullification even if the judge tells you over and over that it cannot be done. Set precedents that will get these idiotic laws rendered impotent. Save the time and tax dollars for something that actually matters.
- Warren
moe darklight said:lol I know. well I for once salute these generous souls!
I have a question though. Why is this not allowed for university professors? I mean there's the age thing in high school (and it is different between male and female students who are we kidding).
but why can't a university professor date a student (male or female)? both parties are mature enough to make their own decisions at that point.
moe darklight said:but why can't a university professor date a student (male or female)? both parties are mature enough to make their own decisions at that point.
Moonbear said:Again, it has to do with the professor having authority over the student...it's no longer a legal issue then, but one of professional ethics. Have sex for a better grade, or get turned down and fail the student...how can one give an unbiased evaluation of a student's academic performance if they are dating them? It's sort of the same rules as in the workplace that one's boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse shouldn't be their direct supervisor in charge of their performance evaluations (and there are cases among faculty where husband and wife join a department together, and one gets promoted to Dept Chair...the other needs to join another department for the sake of performance evaluations and promotion and tenure decisions since there's no way one's spouse is going to be unbiased about that...hard enough for another department chair to deny tenure to the spouse of another department chair).
Poop-Loops said:What if a student that majors one field dates a prof. from a different field, so that there is no core reason to take their class in the first place? Is that still bad?
If they are not in any of the professor's classes, as cristo pointed out, there is no professor-student relationship to be concerned about. If they were dating prior to that time, then it would still be inappropriate for the professor to have that person in their class...presumably this would be foreseeable and the student should be assigned to another professor's section of the course, or if there is only one section, the professor should take that term off from teaching the course, or the student should take the course someplace else. In the previous place I worked, we did have a faculty member married to someone who decided to return to school and became a student, and we just made sure she never took his classes, he never proctored an exam for her classes, and never had anything to do with the grading in those classes.moe darklight said:Ok... but what about if the student is not in any of the professor's classes, or what about if they were dating from before when the student signed up for his or her class?
Yes, that's sexist. It's exactly the same situation. Just as young boys can be infatuated with their teachers, so can young girls. Just as young girls can be the victim of unwanted sexual advances, so can young boys. We do not know the details...a jury will hear the details to determine if a crime was committed or if it was just ethical misconduct.But call me sexist, because I do think it's different in the case of female young students, but I don't see how it's a crime for those teachers to sleep with a male student, even if he is younger than 17.