2nd year university Quatum Physics paper. Please help.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of expectation values in quantum mechanics, specifically in the context of rotational angular momentum of diatomic molecules. The original poster, a second-year chemistry student, seeks clarification on whether the expectation value can predict the outcome of a single measurement of rotational angular momentum.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between expectation values and single measurements, discussing eigenstates and the predictability of measurement outcomes. Questions about the nature of expectation values and their implications in quantum mechanics are raised.

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Some participants provide insights into the nature of expectation values, emphasizing that they represent averages over many measurements rather than predictions for individual outcomes. There is an ongoing exploration of examples to illustrate these concepts, but no consensus has been reached.

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The original poster's inquiry is framed within the context of an upcoming paper, indicating a potential time constraint and the need for clarity on foundational concepts in quantum physics.

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Hello there. I am a 2nd year uni student studying chemistry. I have a paper in a few weeks on the foundations of physical chemistry.
I am having a problem with some quetions and would appreciate any help. Thank you to any who help.

1.Can the expectation value of the rotational angular momentum of a diatomic molecule
be used to predict what value will be obtained experimentally if the rotational angular
momentum of a single molecule is measure only once? Justify.

My answer:

The measurement of the observable <L> must be an eigenvalue to L(operator).

L(operator)fn(x)=Lnfn(x) n=1,2,3...

If the system is in an eigenstate of L(operator), the result gained must be of the observable L, that can only be of the particular eigenvalue characteristic of that eigenstate:

say Ψ(x)=f7(x)
then L=L7

Whereas if the system is not an eigenstate of L, the result of one measurement of a single diatomic can be in anyone eigenstate of L(operator) but will be completely unpredictable:

Ψ(x)≠fn(x)

The eigenvalue is therefore completely unpredictable.

The expectation value <L> would be given by:
Integration over all space of the wavefunction(in all co-ordinates)*L(operator) d(all co-ordinates).

Therefore <L> and the single measurement are unlikely to be the same.
 
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Your answer is essentially correct, though you may not have a full handle on the topic.

The expectation value is the average value you would expect to obtain if you made the measurement billions of times. A simple example system is one in which you have a linear combination of a spin up and spin down particle wave function

\psi = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\big(\,\mid\uparrow\rangle + \mid\downarrow\rangle\,\big)

If you make just ONE measurement of the spin you will get either +1/2 or -1/2. But if you make a LOT of measurements and average them, you will get closer and closer to zero, which is also the expectation value.
 
Thank you. Can anyone else help a bit more? Using the above question?
 
Look at it this way: The expectation value of rolling a standard die is 3.5. Can you use this to predict what you will get before you roll it?
 

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