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$300 for a gold medal and no monetary compensation

  1. Aug 12, 2008 #1

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    $ 300 for a gold medal and no monetary compensation

    Something that I find interesting about the olympics is vast amount of stars that are absent ; in particular those that involve European players . Take one example - soccer - I watched the Euro 2008 with gusto , I was never quite the soccer fan , however the tournament was on a unique and a new level of spectacle for me relative to American sports . Spain won however most of their roster are not present on their olympic soccer team . My guess is its because of the money and perhaps they view the olympics as a political charade by the United States in their " scheme to delude " other nations ........




    As for the money my impression is that there is no compensation by the IOC nor the individual countries . Even if one places the only thing of monetary value is the medal itself ; around $ 300 dollars for the gold medal .
     
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    Doesn't Russia pay its athletes quite well for getting medals in the Olympics?
     
  4. Aug 12, 2008 #3

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    What's with the spaces before commas and periods?

    Anyhow, you should do a little research before you write. All countries with teams in the Olympic soccer venue are lacking their stars because the stars are, for the most part, too old to play in this venue. Each Olympic soccer team comprises U-23 players (born on or after August 1, 1984) plus at most three old farts.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2008 #4

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    Soccer is not a good example. The rules are set up to limit over 23 year old participation - I think only 3 members of a national team may be over 23 - which means that some countries with more stars are already selected against.

    And that is if the stars wanted to play and risk injury anyway.

    With $20M - $50M per year salaries on the line and the opportunity for injury it takes a lot of national pride and love of the game to risk it.

    Apparently the NBA is on-board putting their players at risk, because they want to expand the global markets.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2008 #5

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    Or their contracts with their clubs don't allow it.
    It's the start of the soccer season, how would you feel if your new $50M striker went away for 2weeks to play in a competition for his own personal glory?

    But on a personal level why should they? The olympics doesn't represent your country, it's a money making operation that doesn't pay profesional performers to appear.
    Listing atheletes by their country makes no more sense than a F1 victory by Kimi Räikkönen in a British car with a German engine being a victory for Finland.
    Why not list athletes as part of the Nike or addidas team like in the tour de france?
     
  7. Aug 12, 2008 #6

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    It used to be that professional athletes weren't allowed to compete. Olympics were only for amateur athletes (and then the recognition they could gain certainly would help kick-start a professional career if they chose to do so). Do all sports now allow professional athletes in them, or is it just a few like basketball? Personally, I liked it better as an amateur competition. It just seemed more "wholesome."
     
  8. Aug 12, 2008 #7

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    Soccer at the Olympics probably shouldn't be included because of the World Cup which is out of phase with the 4 year Olympic cycle. The Olympics only qualified 16 teams I think as it is and not all countries put in the effort that they do for World Cup.

    Olympic Medals are nice, but World Cup ..... that's over the top.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2008 #8

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    But it was very unfair. Originally it grew out of an English idea of amateur sports for gentlemen who didn't have to work - after all you wouldn't want to be beaten in the weightlifting by some village blacksmith.

    Then you have a problem of definition, if you get a job as a high school phys-ed teacher are you no longer an amateur, or if you are in the army? Is it possible to even be an amateur if you are from a communist country and the state pays for all your training and expenses?
     
  10. Aug 12, 2008 #9
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    Risk of what? Soccer I can somewhat understand, because you get freak accidents where entire legs just explode, but I can't remember the last time something bad happened in basketball*.


    *I don't watch basketball or soccer, but whenever I do watch soccer, someone is on the ground crying. When I watch basketball, someone gets pushed on their ***, gets up and starts complaining, but it ends there.
     
  11. Aug 12, 2008 #10

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    Sports where there is already a major world championship shouldn't be. thats why soccor is age limited, to stop it being a world cup competitor. But really it makes no more sense than having F1 or indy car racing in the olympics.

    I don't know what happens to tennis now that it is open to professionals, do the US open/Wimbledon winners turn up?
     
  12. Aug 12, 2008 #11

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    You bet. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic are there.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2008 #12
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    Speaking of paying the athletes, did you hear what China did? They told the gymnastics coaches that they would be fined if any of the gymnasts were injured before the olympics.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2008 #13

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    That's called putting the fear of the Central Committee into them.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2008 #14
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    I can chime in here with some expertise about soccer, especially in the Olympics.

    If you didn't know, only players under 23 can participate in the Olympics. If you didn't, then it explains why the best players are absent.

    Other than that, it has been known that the Olympics isn't a big thing among soccer players.
     
  16. Aug 12, 2008 #15
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    Do you read the posts before you start ranting?
     
  17. Aug 12, 2008 #16
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    No. :biggrin:

    I'll change the post. Pretty immature of me really.
     
  18. Aug 12, 2008 #17
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    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I was just wondering
     
  19. Aug 12, 2008 #18
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    Acting skills, maybe.

    wZavXabGsuA&feature=related[/youtub...do classes, where people fall over on command
     
  20. Aug 12, 2008 #19
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    That's pretty funny stuff.

    Still, you have to understand at how much energy and will these guys give in order to play 90 minutes of soccer.

    Trust me, it is VERY hard.

    Still, even the slightest kick in the leg can give way to a guy screaming his head off.
     
  21. Aug 12, 2008 #20

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    Basketball has plenty of ankle and knee injuries due to the constant change off direction and sometimes awkward landings.

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