3D Acoustical Wave Eqn: Closed Soln in Rectangle Coordinates

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on finding a closed solution to the three-dimensional acoustical wave equation in rectangular coordinates, specifically for waves propagating along the x-axis in a rectangular tube. The user has a generic solution but lacks a closed form that meets specific boundary conditions, particularly that the pressure gradient at the walls is zero. It is emphasized that the general solution should be expressed as an infinite summation of Fourier modes, each satisfying the boundary conditions, which will determine the allowable wavelengths in the guide. Additionally, transforming the wave equation into the frequency domain is suggested as a more straightforward approach for solving the problem. The importance of specifying boundary conditions for all dimensions is reiterated to achieve a valid solution.
Watts
Messages
37
Reaction score
0
I am trying to find a closed solution to the three dimensional acoustical wave equation in rectangle coordinates \[<br /> \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial x^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial y^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial z^2 }} = \frac{1}{{c^2 }} \cdot \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }}<br /> \]<br />. The wave is propagating along the x axis. I have a generic solution but I don’t have a closed solution subject to the required boundary conditions I need. I am assuming the wave begins propagation at the origin and travels to the end point of L and the amplitude is restricted to the width and height of A and B. I am assuming it is propagating in a rectangular tube. The variable p is the acoustic pressure and c is the velocity of the wave. If anybody could help I would appreciate it.
 

Attachments

  • Wave Guide.JPG
    Wave Guide.JPG
    15.7 KB · Views: 453
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
you need to specify carefully what is the boundary conditions to find out what is a possible solution of the wave equation. The boundary condition for the logitudinal (sound) waves is that the pressure gradient at the wall is zero. Non zero pressure gradient means non zero flow of particles (displacement), but there cannot be any particle flow from or into the wall.
for the rectangular waveguide the solution of the wave equation may be assumed as a product of the solutions which depend only on x, y, or z only. So you may find the boundary conditions for y and z axis , and there is no boundary condition for x. But if you want a propagating wave then the wave along x should have a real wave vector.
 
shyboy said:
you need to specify carefully what is the boundary conditions to find out what is a possible solution of the wave equation. The boundary condition for the logitudinal (sound) waves is that the pressure gradient at the wall is zero. Non zero pressure gradient means non zero flow of particles (displacement), but there cannot be any particle flow from or into the wall.
I am assuming the walls are rigid except for the end of the tube that is at L.
 
shyboy said:
But if you want a propagating wave then the wave along x should have a real wave vector.

I am assuming the wave is propagating along x. By saying a real wave vector I think you mean a non complex vector.
 
if you fix the waveguide length, then you have a resonator and boundary conditions for x, too. The boundary conditions for an open end is that there is no pressure change at it.
 
Watts said:
I am trying to find a closed solution to the three dimensional acoustical wave equation in rectangle coordinates \[<br /> \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial x^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial y^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial z^2 }} = \frac{1}{{c^2 }} \cdot \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial t^2 }}<br /> \]<br />. The wave is propagating along the x axis. I have a generic solution but I don’t have a closed solution subject to the required boundary conditions I need. I am assuming the wave begins propagation at the origin and travels to the end point of L and the amplitude is restricted to the width and height of A and B. I am assuming it is propagating in a rectangular tube. The variable p is the acoustic pressure and c is the velocity of the wave. If anybody could help I would appreciate it.

You have to write the general solution (which include all possible waves)
and then impose boundary conditions on that. When you do that, some
of the unknowns in the general solution will take on specific values, and
these specific values will give you the wavenumbers of the allowable waves
in the guide. It will also tell you everything about which wavelengths can
fit into the guide and which ones can't (dispersion relationship).

The general solution will be an infinite summation of Fourier modes in x, y and z
where each individual mode satifys the boundary conditions (and so the infinite sum does as well).

I leave the details to you!

Good luck.

Edit: Transform the wave equation into the frequency domain and solve
it there. It's much easier than doing it in the time domain. In the frequency
domain, the equation becomes

\[<br /> \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial x^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial y^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 p}}{{\partial z^2 }} = k^2 \cdot p<br /> \]<br />.

With this solution in hand (with the bouandary conditions already imposed)
you transform it back into the time domain in the usual Fourier way.
 
Last edited:
Thread 'The rocket equation, one more time'
I already posted a similar thread a while ago, but this time I want to focus exclusively on one single point that is still not clear to me. I just came across this problem again in Modern Classical Mechanics by Helliwell and Sahakian. Their setup is exactly identical to the one that Taylor uses in Classical Mechanics: a rocket has mass m and velocity v at time t. At time ##t+\Delta t## it has (according to the textbooks) velocity ##v + \Delta v## and mass ##m+\Delta m##. Why not ##m -...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
4K
Replies
13
Views
1K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K