Does Energy Redistribution in Wave Interference Happen Superluminally?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of energy redistribution during wave interference, particularly whether this process occurs instantaneously or at subluminal speeds. Participants explore the implications of destructive and constructive interference in classical waves and the nature of energy conservation in these contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that energy does not disappear during destructive interference but is redistributed to areas of constructive interference, questioning if this redistribution is instantaneous.
  • Others argue that energy flows continuously and is always constrained to speeds less than or equal to the speed of light (c).
  • A participant raises a scenario involving photon measurement, suggesting that when a radio wave is detected, the photon localizes instantaneously at the interaction point, which may imply superluminal characteristics.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of energy redistribution, asserting that in classical wave interference, regions of destructive interference do not vibrate at all, and thus there is no energy transfer occurring between regions of constructive and destructive interference.
  • This participant emphasizes that the medium can only vibrate in one direction at a time, negating the idea of simultaneous opposing displacements that would require energy transfer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether energy redistribution occurs instantaneously or at subluminal speeds, with no consensus reached on the nature of energy transfer during wave interference.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the behavior of energy in wave interference, particularly concerning the definitions of destructive and constructive interference and the implications for energy conservation.

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Because energy cannot be destroyed, when waves interfere destructively the energy doesn't really disappear, it's simply redistributed to areas of constructive interference, right? But isn't this energy redistribution instantaneous?
 
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No, the energy flows continuously and always at speeds less than or equal to c.
 
The_Duck said:
No, the energy flows continuously and always at speeds less than or equal to c.

What about when a photon is measured? When you have a radio wave, it expands over many many meters, but then when a device picks it up it becomes measured and the entire photon localizes to that interaction point instantaneously.
 
peter.ell said:
Because energy cannot be destroyed, when waves interfere destructively the energy doesn't really disappear, it's simply redistributed to areas of constructive interference, right? But isn't this energy redistribution instantaneous?

There is no redistribution of energy going on here!

Here, we are discussing classical waves that carry energy and momentum as they propagate through a vibrating medium. The wavefunction \psi (\vec r,t) represents the displacement of the vibrating medium from its equilibrium position. In an interference experiment, some parts of the vibrating medium have a greater displacement than normal (constructive interference) and other regions have no displacement at all (destructive interference).

Where destructive interference occurs, the medium is not vibrating. That region never was vibrating. There is no such thing as “interference of displacements”. The medium can only vibrate in one direction at a time. It is impossible to get a medium to vibrate in opposite directions at the same time so that the total displacement “cancels out”. We need not worry about energy not being conserved.

If we set up the experiment so that interference occurs, then there are regions in the medium of enhanced displacement and regions of no displacement. Those regions are always there. There is no sudden destruction of the displacement going on and, likewise, there is no sudden transfer of energy from the “destructive” region to the “constructive” region in order to save conservation of energy.

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