6.2.8 {{k,4},{3,k}}=k what is k

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The discussion revolves around finding the positive real value of \( k \) such that the determinant of the matrix \(\begin{bmatrix} k & 4\\3 & k \end{bmatrix}\) equals \( k \). The focus is on mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to determinants.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the determinant can be calculated as \( k^2 - 12 = k \), leading to the equation \( k^2 - k - 12 = 0 \).
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the first participant's approach and derives the solutions \( k = -3 \) and \( k = 4 \), emphasizing the need for the positive solution.
  • A later reply suggests verifying the solution by substituting \( k = 4 \) back into the original determinant equation.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using Wolfram Alpha for verification, indicating a preference for manual calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method used to find \( k \) and identify \( k = 4 \) as the positive solution. However, there is no explicit consensus on the use of computational tools for verification.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of distinguishing between positive and negative solutions, and there is an implicit assumption that the determinant must equal \( k \) under the condition that \( k \) is a positive real number.

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What positive real value of \textbf{k}, is the determinant of the Matrix
$\begin{bmatrix}
k & 4\\3 & k
\end{bmatrix}$
equal to $k$?
a.3 b.4 c.12 d. $\sqrt{12}$ e. none $k^2-12=k\implies k^2-k-12=0\implies k^2-k-12=0\implies (k+3)(k-4)=0$
$k=\boxed{4}$

ok basically I think most could just eyeball this and get it
but when I tried to ck it in W|A it froze,,,

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got it :unsure:
 
Yes, what you have done is exactly correct!
$$\left|\begin{array}{cc} k & 4\\ 3 & k\end{array}\right|= k^2- 12= k$$.
[math]k^2- k- 12= (k- 4)(k+ 3)= 0[/math].

k= -3 and k= 4. Since the question asks for the "positive" solution, the answer is "4". Well done!

I would not use Wolfram alpha or any tool to check- just put k= 4 back in the original equation:
$$\left|\begin{array}{cc} k & 4\\ 3 & k\end{array}\right|= \left|\begin{array}{cc} 4 & 4\\ 3 & 4\end{array}\right|= 4^2- 12= 16- 12= 4= k$$.
 

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