7.t.27 Write an equation for a sinusoidal graph with the following properties:

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The discussion revolves around writing an equation for a sinusoidal graph based on specified properties, including amplitude, period, and phase shift. Participants explore the implications of these properties on the equation's formulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes an equation based on the given properties, suggesting that the amplitude is -3, which leads to the equation \(Y_{27}=-3\sin{\left[3\left(x-\frac{\pi}{12} \right)\right]}\).
  • Another participant challenges the notion of a negative amplitude, stating that amplitude should be expressed as a positive value, leading to a revised equation of \(y=3\sin\left(3\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)\right)\).
  • A later reply acknowledges the confusion regarding the amplitude and clarifies that the negative sign indicates a reflection rather than a negative amplitude, proposing the equation \(y=-3\sin\left(3\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)\right)\).

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Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of amplitude as negative and its implications for the sinusoidal equation. No consensus is reached on the correct formulation of the equation.

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Participants discuss the relationship between amplitude, phase shift, and the formulation of the sinusoidal equation, highlighting potential misunderstandings about the sign of the amplitude and its representation in the equation.

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$\tiny{7.t.27}$
$\textsf{Write an equation for a sinusoidal graph with the following properties:}\\$
$$A=-3,
\textsf{Period}=\frac{2\pi}{3},
\textsf{Phase Shift}=-\frac{\pi}{4}$$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
A&=-3\\
T&=\frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{2\pi}{\omega}\\
\omega&=3\\
PS&=-\frac{\pi}{4}=\frac{\phi}{\omega}\\
\phi&=\pi
\end{align*}
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
y_{27}&=A\sin{\left[\omega\left(x-\frac{\phi}{\omega} \right)\right]}
\end{align*}
$\textit{so then}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
Y_{27}&=-3\sin{\left[3\left(x-\frac{\pi}{12} \right)\right]}
\end{align*}

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The amplitude of a sinusoidal function is one-half the vertical distance between the minimum and maximum, and so should never given as a negative value. Given:

$$y=A\sin\left(\omega(x-\phi)\right)\tag{1}$$

The amplitude is then $|A|$. Thus, both of the following have an amplitude of 3 units:

$$y=3\sin(x)$$

$$y=-3\sin(x)$$

You have the correct angular velocity $\omega$, but in (1) the phase shift is $\phi$ and so $\phi$ will have the opposite sign of the value given for the phase shift:

$$y=3\sin\left(3\left(x-\left(-\frac{\pi}{4}\right)\right)\right)=3\sin\left(3\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)\right)$$
 

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karush said:
here is what was given...

My mind must've been on something other than this problem when I posted last night...$A=-3$ is not saying the amplitude is -3...so what I would give is:

$$y=-3\sin\left(3\left(x+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)\right)$$

Sorry for the confusion. :D
 

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