A derivative equality for density+distribution funs of N(0,1)

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The discussion revolves around an equality involving the cumulative distribution function (CDF) and density function of the normal distribution N(0, σ²). Participants are exploring the derivation of the equality and the implications of differentiating with respect to different variables.

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  • One participant presents the equality and expresses difficulty in understanding its validity.
  • Another suggests deriving both sides with respect to x and questions the behavior as x approaches minus infinity.
  • A participant reiterates the equality and proposes a relationship between the derivatives, indicating a connection between dF/dσ and dF/dx.
  • There is a question about treating σ and x as independent variables in the context of differentiation.
  • One participant mentions using integration by parts to arrive at the result, suggesting a brute force approach.
  • Another participant claims that their method does not require integrals and achieves the result through straightforward differentiation.
  • A notation simplification is introduced, defining Fσ(x) and fσ(x) for clarity, and a change of variables is suggested to facilitate the derivation.
  • One participant expresses interest in the proposed method involving the change of variables.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to prove the equality, with multiple methods and perspectives being discussed. Some participants challenge each other's reasoning and methods without resolving the underlying questions.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the independence of σ and x during differentiation, and the discussion includes various mathematical techniques that may or may not be applicable in all contexts.

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An equality for density+distribution funs of N(0,1)

Reading through a book, I met the following equality (##F## is cumulative distribuion function, ##f## is density function)
$$\frac{d}{d\sigma}F_{N(0,\sigma^2)}(x)=\frac{-x}{\sigma}f_{N(0,\sigma^2)}(x)$$
which was given without any futher explanations (assumed obvious, I guess) but I have a hard time figuring out why it holds.

Could anyone, please, provide a hint on how to prove it?
 
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What happens if you derive both sides with respect to x? You can exchange the order of the derivatives.
What happens for x -> minus infinity?
 
TaPaKaH said:
Reading through a book, I met the following equality (##F## is cumulative distribuion function, ##f## is density function)
$$\frac{d}{d\sigma}F_{N(0,\sigma^2)}(x)=\frac{-x}{\sigma}f_{N(0,\sigma^2)}(x)$$
which was given without any futher explanations (assumed obvious, I guess) but I have a hard time figuring out why it holds.

Could anyone, please, provide a hint on how to prove it?

It looks like you are dealing with a normal distribution. dF/dσ = (dF/dx)dx/dσ, where dx/dσ=-x/σ
 
mathman said:
It looks like you are dealing with a normal distribution. dF/dσ = (dF/dx)dx/dσ, where dx/dσ=-x/σ
Why don't we have to treat σ and x as two independent variables here?
 
I may have mislead you. However I looked at it using brute force and the result comes out. It requires integration by parts in the middle of the derivation, since you will get a terms looking similar to F but with x2 in the integrand.
 
With the method I described, you don't need any integrals, and you get the right result with two easy derivatives.
 
Notation simplification: Fσ(x) and fσ(x) normal distribution and density functions with mean 0 and std. dev. σ.

With a simple change of variables in the integrand: Fσ(x)=F1(x/σ)
dF1(x/σ)/dσ = (-x/σ2)f1(x/σ) = (-x/σ)fσ(x)
 
That is an interesting method :).
 

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