A few very specific questions about Venus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the environmental effects on an object in long-term orbit around Venus, particularly focusing on dust accumulation, weathering effects, and the potential preservation of organic matter in a hypothetical derelict alien ship. The scope includes conceptual and speculative considerations related to space conditions and material science.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an object in orbit around Venus would accumulate dust, suggesting that if it remains in orbit, the conditions on Venus would not affect it significantly.
  • Another participant proposes that solar wind might influence the object by blowing material from Venus's cloud tops, raising questions about weathering and corrosion due to heat and radiation over time.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that an object in perpetual orbit would likely be subject to 'sandblasting' from interplanetary and solar debris, noting that dust from Venus would need to achieve escape velocity to affect the object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of Venus's environment on an object in orbit, with no consensus reached regarding dust accumulation or the impact of solar wind and debris.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interaction between the object and Venus's atmosphere, as well as the specific conditions that would influence weathering and corrosion over extended periods.

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Individuals interested in planetary science, space exploration, and the effects of extraterrestrial environments on materials may find this discussion relevant.

Andy Weightman
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Hi,
I am working on an animated short movie about a mission to Venus. I have a few very specific questions to help me get an authentic look.

Firstly, would an object in long term orbit around Venus (say a hundred thousand years or so) become coated in dust? If so, what colour?

Secondly, what wethering effects due to heat/radiation/other factors would I have to consider (the object is a derelict alien ship, but made of normal metals and alloys familiar to science, not some fancy indestructable material!)

Third, after such a long time exposed to such an environment, would it be feasible for any trace of organic matter (ie remains of the crew) to be found in the wreckage?

thanks in advance!
 
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Hi Andy

Andy Weightman said:
orbit around Venus
If it's in orbit, then the conditions on Venus are irrelevant. It's just drifting through empty space, with a bit higher insolation from the Sun. If the craft were to interact with the atmosphere, it wouldn't stay in orbit but crash relatively quickly.
 
Thanks Bandersnatch,
I was thinking that perhaps the solar wind (presumably stronger, closer to the sun) would have blown material off the cloud tops of Venus. Any thoughts about weathering/corrosion from heat and radiation over such a long time?
 
It appears more likely an object in some kind of perpetual orbit would be 'sandblasted' by interplanetary and solar debris. Asteroids are not generally thought to be dusty, although dust emissions have been detected in some cases - e.g. asteroid 62412. Any dust from Venus would have to achieve escape velocity from Venus, giving it significant kinetic energy.
 
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