A question regarding electrolysis

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The discussion revolves around the reactions occurring at the anode during electrolysis, particularly when using non-inert electrodes. Participants explore the differences in reactions when the electrode material matches the metal ions in the electrolyte versus when it does not, using silver nitrate and copper as examples.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a different reaction occurs at the anode when the electrode is not inert and has the same metal ion as the electrolyte, specifically referencing the electrolysis of silver nitrate with silver electrodes.
  • Another participant suggests that the reaction occurs because the electrode is not inert, implying that the material of the electrode influences the reaction.
  • A follow-up inquiry asks what specific reaction would occur if a copper anode were used instead of silver, indicating uncertainty about the outcomes.
  • One participant states that non-inert anodes get oxidized and questions why copper would behave differently in this context.
  • Another participant provides a comparison of reactions, noting that with a silver anode, a different reaction occurs than what would typically happen with inert electrodes, and asks what would happen with a copper anode.
  • A later reply mentions that the reactions depend on the redox systems present and their formal potentials, suggesting that the reaction with the lowest potential will occur first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of reactions at non-inert anodes, with some suggesting that the material of the electrode significantly influences the reaction, while others question the specifics of how different materials will behave. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact reactions that would occur with a copper anode.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need to consult data tables for formal potentials to predict reactions, indicating that the discussion is contingent on understanding specific electrochemical properties.

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Why does a different reaction occur at anode when electrode isn't inert and has the same metal ion as present in electrolyte?
What will happen if the electrode isn't inert but is formed of a metal which is different than one present in electrolyte?

For example, we know that in electrolysis of silver nitrate with silver electrodes yields a different reaction at anode. My question is why does such a different reaction occurs and what happens if we have a different, non-inert electrode, say for example copper (electrolysis of silver nitrate using copper electrodes) ?
 
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Faiq said:
Why does a different reaction occur at anode when electrode isn't inert

I have a feeling you have already answered your own question: reaction occurs because the electrode isn't inert.

And you can't expect copper to react as if it was silver. It has to react the way copper does.
 
Borek said:
I have a feeling you have already answered your own question: reaction occurs because the electrode isn't inert.

And you can't expect copper to react as if it was silver. It has to react the way copper does.
Yeah so what will happen with the copper anode? Will a different reaction occur? If so what reaction?
 
Non-inert anodes get oxidized. Why should the copper behave differently in this case?
 
In electrolysis of AgNO3, when silver anode is used, instead of anion being liberated at anode (which happens in inert electrodes) we get a reaction which is very different.
Instead of
2O-+2e- -> O2
We get
Ag -> Ag+ + e-

My question is why does the second reaction instead of the usual first reaction occurs, and which reaction will occur if the anode is copper?
 
It depends on the redox systems present and on their formal potentials - the one with the lowest potential will react first. To predict what to expect you need to consult a data table (like this one).
 

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